Agree. Worrying about the millisecond or two exposure to such ambiguity is probably overthinking it. But if spending several hundred dollars to eliminate the risk floats your boat, that's great for the economy.

 

I agree we're not talking a major issue here, just an avoidable one. If a simple amber signal eliminates any confusion, why would you sacrifice it in the name of aesthetics?

I would say that what you call a millisecond of ambiguity is more like a full second, and that is very significant at speed.

As a product guy I'm not really offended by the exposure to risk as much as I am about the decision to choose form over function.

 

Someone with access to red tail lights with Amber turn signals should put together a group buy. I'd be interested.

 

Just got my euro tail lights today. I ordered the same kit as Dean.

Install is a breeze.

1) Raise the rear spoiler to the full upright position.

2) Snap off the plastic covers immediately above the lights. There are a pair of torx screws per light that need to be removed to release the light. The Cleveland road salt from last winter made this a bear for me; one of the screws was insanely tight. Lack of clearance makes leverage an issue. Take care not to strip the screw!!! Ask me how I know; won't be quitting my day job.

3) Once you have the North American tail lights disconnected, compare to the euro tail light socket. You will need to trim off a tab and round off a corner of the euro socket to allow the North American plug to fit. (self explanatory when you have the light disconnected). I used a small round file and utility knife. Even with this modification, the plug fits securely.

4) Reverse steps and take time to align the lights correctly prior to tightening the screws.

Aside from the amber turn signal, I think I like the clear tails better than stock. They match my clear corners and the clear DRLs in the front. Car is too filthy for decent pictures tonight. Will post the final results soon.

 

For WA State owners on the "clear" lights......not sure if it pertains to the Euro?

Many jurisdictions are looking to boost $ revenues

From WA State Patrol FAQ website:

"Are clear tail lamp lenses permitted?"

No. Washington has adopted the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) 108 for all aftermarket lighting equipment. FMVSS 108 is very specific for tail/brake light lenses as well as front side marker light lenses. Most clear aftermarket lighting lack the required reflex reflectors and side marker lights. Using "red" bulbs in clear lenses is not acceptable as it does not meet FMVSS 108. All aftermarket lighting must have the same functionality as those originally installed.

 

Clear tails should be fine as they are available as a factory option on the US Porsche online configurator.

Not sure that a cop level set on ticketing you would care but all the boxes for my euro clear side markers and clear tails had this sticker on the box.


Oddly the first vendor that I ordered the tails from declined to fulfill my order. He indicated that his distributor would not allow him to sell non-US market parts to a US customer.

 

Finally got a nice day to take some shots of my clear euro tail lights.

I think they go nice with the clear DRLs and euro side markers.

...and of course I get a proper rear turn signal that has NOTHING to do with the brake lights.

 

I'm glad you got what you wanted. These lights look great.

 

Found the euro clear light set (99104490015) available in the US from Suncoast Porsche ($595), or Sonnen Porsche ($471.30). It seems reasonable compared to buying the individual clear euro lights (99163114309 & 99163114209) which are about $490 each or the red euro lights (99163114112 & 99163114212) which are $528.46 each. Has anyone sourced the red euro lights (with amber turn signals) cheaper? I have a 2012 Agate Grey 991 and would prefer to have red rear lights but may opt for the clear lights since they are more reasonable.