I took the affordable supertire plunge! (Sumitomos)
#1
I took the affordable supertire plunge! (Sumitomos)
Had to bite. $638 for four tires shipped to me. From our sponsor TR.
Four tires. 225/40/18 in front and 295/30/18 in rear....
Sumitomo HTR Z III.
On rennlist, John D (site admin) reviewed them on his 993...and felt they were good. He is an instructor.... No, not an R compound tire, but they tested above Bridgestone, Yoko, and Conti SC 3's.... (on a BMW platform).
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...irePageLocQty=
Report to follow. I just could not justify over double for PS2's....
Four tires. 225/40/18 in front and 295/30/18 in rear....
Sumitomo HTR Z III.
On rennlist, John D (site admin) reviewed them on his 993...and felt they were good. He is an instructor.... No, not an R compound tire, but they tested above Bridgestone, Yoko, and Conti SC 3's.... (on a BMW platform).
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...irePageLocQty=
Report to follow. I just could not justify over double for PS2's....
#3
Jeff,
Great price and very good reviews for this tire. The only negative I can see is the weight. A PS2 rear weighs 26 lbs. vs. 30 lbs for the Sumitomo. The front PS2 weighs 21 lbs. vs. 25 for the HTR Z 3. A lot of additional weight at the exterior of the wheel.
Great price and very good reviews for this tire. The only negative I can see is the weight. A PS2 rear weighs 26 lbs. vs. 30 lbs for the Sumitomo. The front PS2 weighs 21 lbs. vs. 25 for the HTR Z 3. A lot of additional weight at the exterior of the wheel.
#4
To be fair, the sumi stats are not as good in weight as the tires it beat..for a "non racer" I just want a tire I can afford. If it turns out that that weight went into the sidewall...fine. If these are "better" than PS2's (did I actually say that)....
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Damon, can you take two tires out of each size and "check the spec" for us? (I gave your name the credit for the sale, btw)
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In the test (225/45/17):
Conti Sport Contact 3 21#
Yoko ADVAN Sport 24#
Bridgestone re50... 25#
Sumi 23#
So it gave up 2# on the conti and still won.....it also has a 300 wear rating .....amazing.
In 295/30-18 the sumi spec on TR is 30# (front is 25#). The ps2 spec is
rear/front 26#/21#. But, I would like to know how "real" those weights are.....in bike tires, a tire's weight on the box is often 45g less than what it is on the scale by certain vendors.....
JB
#5
In the big picture of performance tire shopping the Sumitomo HTR Z III "fair to good".
Comparing the Sumitomo HTR Z III to other budget performance tires, they are "excellent"!
You made a good choice in that price point.
Comparing the Sumitomo HTR Z III to other budget performance tires, they are "excellent"!
You made a good choice in that price point.
#7
It is a street tire, so for that purpose, it is likely excellent. And at <50% PS2 money, a no brainer. I'll report back.
TT, nice to hear from you. Please give us your take on these too. I could not help by try them. If they stink, PS2's will go on the car for sure... I plan to DE them too at Summit Point.
Some have said in the dry they are superior to the PS2....rain, probably not, but I don't push in rain ever....
JB
Last edited by jcb-memphis; 07-21-2008 at 06:47 PM.
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#8
I have a set on the rear in OEM measurements. I got them from TR as well. I have had them on for about 2 months and am very happy with them so far. Grip, comfort, look, and lack of road noise is excellent for the price. I plan on buying a set for the front in a few months. I highly recommend them.
#9
Glad to hear you guys are liking them. Please keep me in mind when ordering. Thanks.
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damon@tirerack.com
877-522-8473 ext. 4643
574-287-2345 ext. 4643
**Don't forget to add my name to online orders!**
Or use this link:
http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=BH1&url=index.jsp
#14
I'll be paying attention to this thread... My big question is NOISE... How Noisy are these tires? I went with the Michilen PS RIB because of the noise and have been extremely happy. The only issue is cost... But if the Sumitomo is quiet, then I'll give them a shot next time around...
Mike
Mike
#15
Damon I will be calling you today to place an order for these tires.