Turbo S or McLaren?
#61
11-07-2013, 10:56 AM
I assume that my post is affected by this statement too 
Practicality, service costs and usability during all year seasons are not main goals for $200k cars. Most people who can afford cars that expensive own more cars in their garage (most often wife`s SUV, daily driver & sports car) and every car have its own purpose.
So, imagine yourself as a guy who is in market for 991 Turbo S, 12c & R8. When you open your garage on weekends what would you like to have in:
1. Audi Q5, BMW 5, Porsche Turbo S
2. Audi Q5, BMW 5, McLaren MP4-12C
3. Audi Q5, BMW 5, Audi R8
Practicality, service costs and usability during all year seasons are not main goals for $200k cars. Most people who can afford cars that expensive own more cars in their garage (most often wife`s SUV, daily driver & sports car) and every car have its own purpose. So, imagine yourself as a guy who is in market for 991 Turbo S, 12c & R8. When you open your garage on weekends what would you like to have in:
1. Audi Q5, BMW 5, Porsche Turbo S
2. Audi Q5, BMW 5, McLaren MP4-12C
3. Audi Q5, BMW 5, Audi R8
#62
11-07-2013, 12:28 PM
The styling of the 911 just blends in with the rest of the cars being offered at a MUCH lesser price point (or older cars that don't cost much at all). It just doesn't stick out as a different car. Just your average, run-of-the-mill, 911.
*edit: This line of thinking you mentioned may seem offensive to those who think the 911 Turbo sticks out, and garners attention.
Last edited by jaspergtr; 11-07-2013 at 12:31 PM.
#63
11-07-2013, 12:30 PM
OK, I'm biased, but that is the garage at the primary residence and love going out there
#64
11-07-2013, 01:33 PM
While I agree with you, this can be read a completely opposite way:
The styling of the 911 just blends in with the rest of the cars being offered at a MUCH lesser price point (or older cars that don't cost much at all). It just doesn't stick out as a different car. Just your average, run-of-the-mill, 911.
*edit: This line of thinking you mentioned may seem offensive to those who think the 911 Turbo sticks out, and garners attention.
The styling of the 911 just blends in with the rest of the cars being offered at a MUCH lesser price point (or older cars that don't cost much at all). It just doesn't stick out as a different car. Just your average, run-of-the-mill, 911.
*edit: This line of thinking you mentioned may seem offensive to those who think the 911 Turbo sticks out, and garners attention.
#65
11-07-2013, 01:39 PM
^ 991TurboS Very nice thoughts, but you are in minority when it comes to $200k buyers. Most of them search something exclusive, rare, different in big crowd of cars on streets. Its not about getting to 60 in 2.9 secs (GTR does that pretty good).
#66
11-07-2013, 02:42 PM
Oh well, that is a minority I am glad to be a part of. Whatever the Marque, if you got the scratch, then buy what you like.
#67
11-07-2013, 02:45 PM
I am glad that you are glad But with "minority" I wanted to point that wider audience probably have different goals with $200k cars than you. Cars shouldn't serve as status symbols, but unfortunately if that is not the case its pretty sure that Porsche and many other super-brands wouldn't exist nowadays LOL
But with "minority" I wanted to point that wider audience probably have different goals with $200k cars than you. Cars shouldn't serve as status symbols, but unfortunately if that is not the case its pretty sure that Porsche and many other super-brands wouldn't exist nowadays LOL
#68
11-07-2013, 02:52 PM
I am glad that you are glad But with "minority" I wanted to point that wider audience probably have different goals with $200k cars than you. Cars shouldn't serve as status symbols, but unfortunately if that is not the case its pretty sure that Porsche and many other super-brands wouldn't exist nowadays LOL
But with "minority" I wanted to point that wider audience probably have different goals with $200k cars than you. Cars shouldn't serve as status symbols, but unfortunately if that is not the case its pretty sure that Porsche and many other super-brands wouldn't exist nowadays LOLLast edited by 991TurboS; 11-07-2013 at 03:01 PM.
#72
11-07-2013, 08:36 PM
I'm also in that minority... Although I'm still not sure if my car will be a Turbo S yet, but it certainly will be a 991 
However.... I do have to admit that I now understand a little bit more why the McLaren is such an exotic here in the U.S.
I'm on holiday in the the U.S. of A at the moment (enjoying a rental 911 C2S cab i.a.) and in contrast with Switzerland, I don't see much McLarens over here, so that's probably why people see the car more as an exotic than a 911 Turbo.
For me personally, the design doesn't appeal to me and I don't like the interior. I do however like the exhaust sound (for a turbocharged car), but the car in general just doesn't do it for me, for some reason.
But let's be honest, in the end, one can't really go wrong with either of these cars.
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However.... I do have to admit that I now understand a little bit more why the McLaren is such an exotic here in the U.S.
I'm on holiday in the the U.S. of A at the moment (enjoying a rental 911 C2S cab i.a.) and in contrast with Switzerland, I don't see much McLarens over here, so that's probably why people see the car more as an exotic than a 911 Turbo.
For me personally, the design doesn't appeal to me and I don't like the interior. I do however like the exhaust sound (for a turbocharged car), but the car in general just doesn't do it for me, for some reason.
But let's be honest, in the end, one can't really go wrong with either of these cars.
Suzy991 (iOS app)
Last edited by Suzy991; 11-07-2013 at 08:46 PM.
#73
11-08-2013, 07:46 AM
There are 911 OWNERS (not just people who know the marque), and members HERE on 6speed (enthusiasts on some level), who don't even know the differences on THEIR OWN CARS!!!! So that minority is a VERY small minority.
I'm sure you could find many threads where people don't know the differences between a C2 and C4, or C4 and Turbo, or GT3 and C2, or C2 or C2s, or C2 and GT2RS. Happens pretty often - and that's just on a Porsche heavy forum.
When you step outside these walls, those chances increase exponentially.
#74
11-08-2013, 08:57 AM
There are 911 OWNERS (not just people who know the marque), and members HERE on 6speed (enthusiasts on some level), who don't even know the differences on THEIR OWN CARS!!!! So that minority is a VERY small minority.
I'm sure you could find many threads where people don't know the differences between a C2 and C4, or C4 and Turbo, or GT3 and C2, or C2 or C2s, or C2 and GT2RS. Happens pretty often - and that's just on a Porsche heavy forum.
When you step outside these walls, those chances increase exponentially.
#75
11-08-2013, 10:38 AM
I'm sure you could find many threads where people don't know the differences between a C2 and C4, or C4 and Turbo, or GT3 and C2, or C2 or C2s, or C2 and GT2RS. Happens pretty often - and that's just on a Porsche heavy forum.
When you step outside these walls, those chances increase exponentially.
When you step outside these walls, those chances increase exponentially.
Last edited by 991TurboS; 11-08-2013 at 10:59 AM.