I am looking to buy a new P car and I def. want a turbo but was wondering if the S is worth the extra money. I will never track the car just play on the weekends and the occasional dinner. I have noticed looking at used ones the prices are getting closer together as depreciation has started on both models. Thoughts on the two models, please!

 

The Turbo S has, as standard equipment, every performance option that is on the Turbo. Once you add these on the cost is about the same. And the Turbo S has 40 more horsepower and a good deal more torque on overboost as the engine has a higher redline. I never contemplated getting a Turbo. I wanted the extra power and all the performance options that come standard on the Turbo S.

I don't know a single Turbo S owner who has told me that he wishes he got a Turbo instead.

 

If you can swing the extra cash, the TTS is the way to go. Since you are looking at used cars, it depends on whether you can find one configured the way you want.

When I was looking at the TT vs. TTS, it was going to be about a difference $25K in price. If I added, the PCCB, the difference was $16K. Since I started by looking for a GTS, I was already over "budget" to get the TT. It still makes me smile overtime I drive it.

 

I have a pretty fully specced out TT, even with CLs, Burmeister, LEDs, Panoramic roof, Sport Chrono, etc...my car is still US$22k less than the S (and mine came fully customized/tailor ordered by me). I track as often as I can and so I didn't want the PCCB (which are standard on the S and are a must) - changing a set of those would set you back around 25k.

I saved money buying what is still a ridiculously fast car, bought myself a nice Rolex and took my family on a mini vacation and still have enough in my "new car account" to buy a nice used Harley that I've got my eye on.

Bottom line, if I wanted the extra 40hp, with a simple ECU tune I can get an extra 100. Stock vs Stock, performance difference is minimal. The S is 0.1 seconds quicker off the line to 60mph than the TT with S.C. and has a top speed that is 3mph higher. Both stunning machines but I do not regret my purchase at all.

Good luck! No matter what you choose, you are getting a fascinating machine.

 

Funny I went thru the same thought process in Nov. But I found a 2015 Turbo S for almost the same money (1k difference) for a well speced (read ordered) Turbo. So it was a no brainer I thought. Yes it has PCCB with center lock wheels and with what I read the rotors should last 100k miles, if not tracked frequently. Yes you can flash the Turbo, but the warranty comes into question. So I got all the speed options plus the Burmester (I must option) for almost Turbo money. Look around there are still some Turbo S out there.


For an ordered Turbo I got 5% off, for a Turbo S I got 12% off. Both are great cars and very close in performance. But every time you see a comparison they always use the Turbo S. I also think IMHO that the turbo s will depreciate less. And BTW I heard they sell 80% turbo s and 20% Turbo.




Can't lose either way, both great cars and very fast.


Good luck good time to buy.

 

I put the numbers together and at the time the Turbo was harder to get and they were offering less off so the Turbo S was a no brainer. I love the PCCBs and wouldn't have ordered them on the car thinking they are a waste but after a 200 mile drive my wheels look the same without a spec of anything. To me that alone is worth it. The CL wheels and the Dynamic Chassis Control and the Sport Chrono the PCCBs and the extra HP and Torque made it an easy decision.

 

Same here, went through the same process. When going through all the details it turns out the difference between an S and a TT is only 20k AED(~6k USD) in the UAE, IMO if you want to spec, go Turbo S and be over with it, if you want 0 specs, go TT.

Also regarding performance, my TTS is stage 2+, and my brother's TT is stage 2+ (exact same mods) and when we race, I'm ahead by about 1.5cars from 100kmh to 220kmh

Keep in mind there are things in the TTS that aren't in the TT and you'd have to do it yourself to convert the looks after the car arrives, like the exhaust is matte black in the TTS, and chrome in the TT, and the front bumper fins differ between TTS and TT.

Brake wise? Drove both and drive both regularly, there's a difference and you feel it, PCCBs are better. Response and performance.

and as others said, Burmester is a must whether it's a TT or a TTS. Skies worth of difference between Bose and Burmester.

-Hamad

 

Guess the bottomline here (Porsche is so astute so they knew to make more Turbo S then Turbo's), If you can afford $165,000 for a Turbo with options you can afford $195K for an S with all the goodies. When you are talking That much money $30K really isn't going to bankrupt anyone.

And that is why IMO for the first time ever, the Turbo and the Turbo S models came out at the same time. Great marketing on Porsche's part.

 

Cannot go wrong with either the TT or TTS. I went through much the same exercise as others here have described configuring both a year ago before I ordered my TTS, but started out configuring a C4S. Porsche marketing is very clever and I bought into it. No question that there are '14 and '15 TTS's on dealer lots both new and used so it should be easy to get one for a very good price. Typical discount on ordered cars is less than 12%, but one can still get a good discount on them.

The design and engineering of the 991 TT and TTS is very impressive. The PCCB/grey iron rotor question is not entirely subjective, as the PCCB's were improved for the 991 over the 997.2, as where the CL's, but both brake rotor systems are phenomenal. I happened to see a then new '14 grey iron rotor TTS with five lug wheels on a dealer lot that had rust on them and decided that I wanted the PCCB's with CL's at that point. Yes, the rust wears off very quickly when driven and they are far less expensive to replace, so ultimately I made a subjective decision in favor of the PCCB's. I have absolutely no regrets about ordering the TTS exactly how I wanted it. Of course it cost me more despite a then competitive discount, but at the lofty price of either, the delta was not enough for me to compromise.

 

Easy decision the way I see it. If you have the coin to spring for the S, do it. You will not regret your purchase. If you don't mind having a few less options like PCCB or PDCC or LED, then save some money and go for the TT.


Personally though, I love my TTS and wouldn't of been happy with anything else. I have owned some pretty quick cars in the past and wanted to be sure that if I were to spend that kind of money it had better be as good or better than my previous car.


Good luck in your choice. You will no doubt be thrilled with this car.

 

They are basically the same car except for a ECU tune + better standard equipment in the Turbo S.

On ice driveing both cars back to back,there is no real life difference. In the dry a marginal difference. The PCCB brakes are miles better,however.

 

^-- agree.

 

I hear their dealers that still have new 2014 Turbo S on their lot. I believe they're offering discounts up to $30,000 off MSRP.

 

I went with the TT because the S costs 100k more here. I don't track the car and I don't need the ceramic breaks.

 

The problem of brake dust on wheels can easily be eliminated by going to a darker wheel color. My Niche Monotec Misano T61 forged wheels are a dark titanium color. I recently went 900 miles, handwashing my Porsche twice but without any cleaning of the wheels and there was no noticeable brake dust. They seemedclean, unless u touched them and looked at your fingers.

PCCBs are nice except when maint is needed. If they came on the Porsche with little cost premium, I would want them - only if I'm pretty sure I could own the car and sell it b4 brake maint is required.