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Old 11-10-2011 | 12:20 PM
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Will I miss PDCC?

Now that my 991s order has locked, will I miss the PDCC or is it perhaps a blessing in disguise to not have it?

The reviews so far seem to say that the PDCC is very noticeable, making corners feel like straight line driving.

Was it a mistake to not select PDCC?
 
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Now that my 991s order has locked, will I miss the PDCC or is it perhaps a blessing in disguise to not have it?

The reviews so far seem to say that the PDCC is very noticeable, making corners feel like straight line driving.

Was it a mistake to not select PDCC?

It´s pretty expensive and the reviews about it sound unorthodoxly, but i am pretty sure that it´s one of the few (new) things that will leave u literally speechless once getting used to it. i can only imagine how much more confidence it will give you entering a corner and how much higher the cornering speed in the end can be because of it!
 
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Old 11-10-2011 | 12:44 PM
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Expense is the main reason I didn't select PDCC, plus I thought it would only come into play in aggressive or track driving, but it has now been revealed that it's function is noticeable in normal street driving. But others have also advised that the 911 handling has always been great with no need for PDCC.
 
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Old 11-10-2011 | 12:53 PM
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Expense is the main reason I didn't select PDCC, plus I thought it would only come into play in aggressive or track driving, but it has now been revealed that it's function is noticeable in normal street driving. But others have also advised that the 911 handling has always been great with no need for PDCC.
exactly, the handling of 911s has always been fantastic without a PDCC.
i am sure it is a step forwards in terms of performance, but do 4 seconds less on the Ring (because of the PDCC)
really matter for the average driver at that price?!
 
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In big cars like the Cayenne and Panamera I can see how PDCC is great but for the 911 it is questionable for DD. I will however say that it is amazing technology and makes the Cayenne feel so agile and planted its scarey.
 
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What Uhn said. Exactly my thoughts. Love PDCC and PTV on my cayenne. I've driven my friends Cayenne without PDCC. Night and day difference with and without especially on windy roads. For the 991 not sure how much it would add since the center of gravity is quite low anyway.
 
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My opinion is somewhere in the middle . I do agree that porsches are great handling cars with or without an extra performance option . On the other hand one can read many posts written where an owner wished he bought the car with the option . It's not the car that's the problem .. but rather the doubts about the missing option in the mind of the owner . He'll always know its not there and if your first post even before you bought the car hints at this .. then that feeling might not go away .

So my vote is to get it . Erase the doubt .
If the order is locked discuss it with the dealership and at least explore all the options.
 
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Since this is the first time being offered on the 911, I am thinking those owners who have posted that they wished they had this option, must be cayenne and panameras, where the consensus clearly is that it is a great option to have.

I am more interested to know whether the 911 owners might miss this option? Could it possibly make cornering too boring and not fun ?
 
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Old 11-11-2011 | 01:59 AM
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Oh, forgot to ask, the 991s will have DEMS with sport chrono, so don't those more or less serve a similar purpose to PDCC, and would having both be overkill?
 
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Originally Posted by aamersa
Since this is the first time being offered on the 911, I am thinking those owners who have posted that they wished they had this option, must be cayenne and panameras, where the consensus clearly is that it is a great option to have.

I am more interested to know whether the 911 owners might miss this option? Could it possibly make cornering too boring and not fun ?
this might help a bit:


(from R&T)

"New for the 991 is PDCC active roll stabilization, much lighter and more compact than the split anti-roll bar setup in the Panamera and Cayenne. Instead, each conventional anti-roll bar drop link is replaced by a small 2-way hydraulic actuator with a 70-mm stroke. Depending on your level of driving aggression and the mode selected, the system can effectively add spring rate to any wheel to mitigate roll. On Porsche’s test track, it was especially effective through a tight slalom section."
 
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Old 11-11-2011 | 03:05 PM
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I'm going to buck the trend and vote no, although I haven't driven the 991 yet. On the Cayenne, PDCC is amazing... the higher center of gravity really benefits: The higher the center of gravity, the more the centrifugal forces essentially pry the tires off the road. However, on the Panameras, I definately do not notice the PDCC much at all.... I'm not sure the 991- a car that has one of the lowest centers of gravity of any road going car on the market; will benifit from it.
 
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I will reserve my vote until I see the 991 GT3 and RS.

If PDCC is not offered for the GT models, then I conclude this feature has nothing to do with actual performance (in the 911 series).
 
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Originally Posted by Targa Tim
I will reserve my vote until I see the 991 GT3 and RS.

If PDCC is not offered for the GT models, then I conclude this feature has nothing to do with actual performance (in the 911 series).

2:47 gives an answer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhC_O...feature=relmfu
 
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Originally Posted by catchmyshadow
2:47 gives an answer:
Thanks.

If 4 seconds are due to PDCC then it is significant.

4.0RS with 50 more hp is only 6 seconds faster around the ring than my 3.8RS.

I'm still interested to find out if PDCC will be offered in the GT cars.
 
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Old 11-12-2011 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Targa Tim
Thanks.

If 4 seconds are due to PDCC then it is significant.

4.0RS with 50 more hp is only 6 seconds faster around the ring than my 3.8RS.

I'm still interested to find out if PDCC will be offered in the GT cars.

I have a hard time believing that the PDCC alone is responsible for 4 seconds- from a lap time perspective, it is just a stiffer sway bar. From a performance perspective it doesn't add much of anything other than allowing them to have both a stiffer sway bar for cornering, and a softer one for road going comfort.


I can almost guarantee that the majority of that improvement is coming from the PDK- Porsche driving instructers have told me that they are seconds per lap faster in the PDK's at Barber MP... which isn't a very long track

Also the 4.0 rs has more aero than the 3.8, stiffer springs, and presumably a more agressive alignment... all of which contribute to lower laptimes. Now imagine what they could run if that thing had a PDK!!
 

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