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Old 11-25-2011 | 11:00 AM
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Here's some interesting results

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...carrera-s.html
 
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interesting, but the fact that it`s a manual 991** and also this picture...



...doesn`t make me really trust those times.



(**cause even the biggest muppets can clock accurate times in a PDK car but one can do so much wrong when shifting a manual.)
 
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Old 11-25-2011 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by catchmyshadow
interesting, but the fact that it`s a manual 991** and also this picture...



...doesn`t make me really trust those times.



(**cause even the biggest muppets can clock accurate times in a PDK car but one can do so much wrong when shifting a manual.)
This is Edmunds Inside Line...they are not exactly new to this.

I'm not a 0-60 junkie but I find these times interesting and possibly representative of real life driving.

PDK is terrific but not for every driver.
 

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Old 11-25-2011 | 03:30 PM
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much more manual reviews will be coming out soon.
we will see how representative the numbers are and i wanna hear how different the new 7-speed manual is.
 
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Not that impressive with the raised MSRP. Looks like my TTRS performance for alot more $$. So it's as fast as the Cayman R? I guess we have to wait for the laptime comparos .
 
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Not that impressive with the raised MSRP. Looks like my TTRS performance for alot more $$. So it's as fast as the Cayman R? I guess we have to wait for the laptime comparos .

other tests and laptime comparos are already out, for the 991 with PDK tho.




(sportauto supertest)

Porsche 991 Carrera S, PDK, 400HP
Hockenheim: 1:10,4 min.







Ferrari 458 Italia, 570HP
Hockenheim: 1:10,5 min.

 

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Originally Posted by catchmyshadow
other tests and laptime comparos are already out, for the 991 with PDK tho.
Looks much better and promising than the 0-60. I wonder if the Porsche Torque Vectoring is what makes the difference. I wonder how the (plus) compares to the standrad manual. Interesting nevertheless.
 
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Old 11-26-2011 | 06:13 AM
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Looks much better and promising than the 0-60. I wonder if the Porsche Torque Vectoring is what makes the difference. I wonder how the (plus) compares to the standrad manual. Interesting nevertheless.

PDCC together with PTV, but also the new chassis makes a huge difference.
the new 991 is a cornering monster!




auto motor sport (AMS) - test:


result: 0-62mph (100 km/h) in 4.1 seconds for the 991 S with PDK.
(so exactly the time that Porsche claims.)
1/4 mile: 12.3 seconds @ 117mph

i think that something went wrong in the inside line test. maybe probs with the tires/the grip or something.




 

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Old 11-26-2011 | 12:26 PM
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I hope its a little quicker than this..Car and Driver ran a 12.4 @114.8mph and a 0-60 time of 3.9 sec. in a DCT equipped M3.

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...ac-cts-v-2.pdf
 
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I hope its a little quicker than this..Car and Driver ran a 12.4 @114.8mph and a 0-60 time of 3.9 sec. in a DCT equipped M3.

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...ac-cts-v-2.pdf
the 991s tested were fully equipped, that´s important.
the M3 got 20 more HP and the 991 is still slightly quicker on the quarter mile.
between 0-60 and 0-62 is a difference. the 991 S PDK is able to clock a 3.9, maybe even a 3.8 to 60 as well, no doubt.

BUT the main area in which the new 911 has improved is the handling, through corners. it drives circles around the M3 in that department.
 

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The hockenheim time is very impressive and justifies the price of the 991S. Performance number is a huge leap from the 997. The 997GT3 is a great car. But very few of us are able to utilize the manual transmission to the extent that professional drivers can. Pushing the engine forward to a mored mid-engine like balance is a right move for the 991. The Lotus Evora like handling characteristic + Porsche engineering will make the 991 one of the most sought after sportscar in the next decade without the Ferrari 458 /Mclaren MP4 price tag.
 
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The hockenheim time is very impressive and justifies the price of the 991S. Performance number is a huge leap from the 997. The 997GT3 is a great car. But very few of us are able to utilize the manual transmission to the extent that professional drivers can. Pushing the engine forward to a mored mid-engine like balance is a right move for the 991. The Lotus Evora like handling characteristic + Porsche engineering will make the 991 one of the most sought after sportscar in the next decade without the Ferrari 458 /Mclaren MP4 price tag.

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Originally Posted by catchmyshadow
the 991s tested were fully equipped, that´s important.
the M3 got 20 more HP and the 991 is still slightly quicker on the quarter mile.
between 0-60 and 0-62 is a difference. the 991 S PDK is able to clock a 3.9, maybe even a 3.8 to 60 as well, no doubt.

BUT the main area in which the new 911 has improved is the handling, through corners. it drives circles around the M3 in that department.
The M3 tested was fully equipped as well. Yes the 991 is a better handling car, which it better be at almost 400lbs lighter and over $35k US dollars more...I expect better times. I will wait to see what the other mags get out of the 991. Either way I absolutely adore the car..saw one at the LA Auto show, really was beautiful.

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