First 991 Drive (Manifold)
#91
+1.....all backed up by the posts just on this board alone.
Guy's the reviewers can't all be wrong. Our 997's were great cars on the day (and still are) but Porsche has moved forward and will continue to do so with or without 997 diehards. Don't kid yourselves. Not all enthusiasts will be driving vintage cars in the future. That is stereotyping .
And of course 991.2 is not far off.....and then we can listen to the commentary about how the 991.2 was the car the .1 should have been. And just because the 991.2 will be better (which stands to reason) doesn't make the .1 a bad car....same as with the 997.1/.2. The irony is it wasn't that far back that the 996 guys were criticising 997 as being less of a 911....and mainly guys that just bought heavily optioned 996's at runout prices whereas the guys who had been in them for a while were ready to shift into 997's. Porsche will do well out of this car and, at US prices they are a steal.
Guy's the reviewers can't all be wrong. Our 997's were great cars on the day (and still are) but Porsche has moved forward and will continue to do so with or without 997 diehards. Don't kid yourselves. Not all enthusiasts will be driving vintage cars in the future. That is stereotyping .
And of course 991.2 is not far off.....and then we can listen to the commentary about how the 991.2 was the car the .1 should have been. And just because the 991.2 will be better (which stands to reason) doesn't make the .1 a bad car....same as with the 997.1/.2. The irony is it wasn't that far back that the 996 guys were criticising 997 as being less of a 911....and mainly guys that just bought heavily optioned 996's at runout prices whereas the guys who had been in them for a while were ready to shift into 997's. Porsche will do well out of this car and, at US prices they are a steal.
I'm well aware that each new generation is met with the protest that it's no longer a real 911, but is it possible that they've finally gone too far with the 991? A 4" increase in wheelbase is a lot, and much of it appears to have been used to move the engine forward for more even weight distribution. The result is a car which feels more like a big Cayman. That's not a bad thing, and the car is great overall - undeniably better in some ways than the 997 - but I still say that it no longer feels like a 911. And again, I've driven the 996 and 997 back to back and found them very similar, whereas the 991 is significantly different. Maybe it will grow on me, or a new variant will appeal more, but for now the 991 is missing some characteristics that I've come to find vital in the 911.
As far as whether the 991 will sell well, time will tell. I don't doubt it, but of course that's a different question from whether the car is a 'real' 911.
#92
Agree with OP completely.
The death of the GT1 engine really does signify the end of another era, just as the move from aire cooling to water cooling ended another era.
I don't like change - but lets remember that people moaned mightily when water cooling was brought into the mix. With time, I'm sure we will all love the 991
The death of the GT1 engine really does signify the end of another era, just as the move from aire cooling to water cooling ended another era.
I don't like change - but lets remember that people moaned mightily when water cooling was brought into the mix. With time, I'm sure we will all love the 991
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