991 Test Drive (TomE) - props to Manifold
#17
I don't see the problem with the 991 being more GT, and a luxury car first and sports car second. For those looking for the hardcore sports car experience, don't they have the GT3 and similar variants out there with manual trannys?
ps.bigger is better coz the 997 looked too small compared to its competitors and Porsche realized that.
ps.bigger is better coz the 997 looked too small compared to its competitors and Porsche realized that.
I think the size was changed with only one thing in mind...to make it an easier drive by lessening understeer. (and maybe for a cushier ride)
Last edited by buck986; 02-07-2012 at 04:06 PM.
#18
To the OP...nice review and similar to my experience.
Nice car but your not going out and buying right away.
As I have said all along, this is another variant of the 911, a nice one but not better for everyone at this time.
In the future we may have no choice but for now many potential buyers do.
Nice car but your not going out and buying right away.
As I have said all along, this is another variant of the 911, a nice one but not better for everyone at this time.
In the future we may have no choice but for now many potential buyers do.
#19
I thought the seats I sat in were great (14 way). I did feel more confined in the 991. Almost like I was sitting down in the ****pit as opposed to the 997. I also felt I had less room for my legs between the door panel and the center console. Perhaps the new door panel comes in to the leg area a little bit more than the 997? Not sure but when I got out of the 991 and back into my 997 I felt like I had more breathing space if that makes sense.
#21
Great review - some good points nobody has discussed.
My only beef with your argument is that you keep saying "bigger". As someone who has driven the the car I didn't feel it at all. I do feel the added performance in the wider front track - it's a different sensation - and the wheels have been moved to the corners of the car. But I actually thought it felt identical in size to the 997 when parking, standing next to, sitting in, cramming into the back seats, etc. I might go as far as to saying I felt even more encapsulated in the (edit) 991.
Are you sure it wasn't an illusion of road feel and larger windscreen? The sub 2" length addition is mostly bumper filling per porsche.
I think your fluidity comments are dead on. Glad Porsche engineers were able to get rid of the "little red wagon" feel of the 997.
My only beef with your argument is that you keep saying "bigger". As someone who has driven the the car I didn't feel it at all. I do feel the added performance in the wider front track - it's a different sensation - and the wheels have been moved to the corners of the car. But I actually thought it felt identical in size to the 997 when parking, standing next to, sitting in, cramming into the back seats, etc. I might go as far as to saying I felt even more encapsulated in the (edit) 991.
Are you sure it wasn't an illusion of road feel and larger windscreen? The sub 2" length addition is mostly bumper filling per porsche.
I think your fluidity comments are dead on. Glad Porsche engineers were able to get rid of the "little red wagon" feel of the 997.
#22
Is bigger and FEELS bigger are 2 different things. It isn't actually bigger - but has a wider front end. You can't see as much of the front due to the flattening of the car and lower seating position. The wheels are pushed to the corners of the car more - a move that was needed because the front bumper overhang of the 997 was extreme.
There is only one 997.2 I would consider taking over the 991. It's the GT3 RS 4.0 version. I know I KNOW - this goes against what I'm about - comfort with speed -
but come on - how can I resist this?: (I don't have a quarter of a million in cash handy - thats how - see below)
http://tinyurl.com/7vnqymu (edited for TinyURL)
There is only one 997.2 I would consider taking over the 991. It's the GT3 RS 4.0 version. I know I KNOW - this goes against what I'm about - comfort with speed -
but come on - how can I resist this?: (I don't have a quarter of a million in cash handy - thats how - see below)
http://tinyurl.com/7vnqymu (edited for TinyURL)
Last edited by EricP; 02-08-2012 at 09:14 AM.
#23
Is bigger and FEELS bigger are 2 different things. It isn't actually bigger - but has a wider front end. You can't see as much of the front due to the flattening of the car and lower seating position. The wheels are pushed to the corners of the car more - a move that was needed because the front bumper overhang of the 997 was extreme.
There is only one 997.2 I would consider taking over the 991. It's the GT3 RS 4.0 version. I know I KNOW - this goes against what I'm about - comfort with speed -
but come on - how can I resist this?: (I don't have a quarter of a million in cash handy - thats how - see below)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem&_rdc=1&item=110821875168&ru=http%3A% 2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR4 0%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D1108218751 68%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1#ht_500wt_1182
There is only one 997.2 I would consider taking over the 991. It's the GT3 RS 4.0 version. I know I KNOW - this goes against what I'm about - comfort with speed -
but come on - how can I resist this?: (I don't have a quarter of a million in cash handy - thats how - see below)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem&_rdc=1&item=110821875168&ru=http%3A% 2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR4 0%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D1108218751 68%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1#ht_500wt_1182
#24
Yeah that 4" wheelbase stretch is certainly noticeable - I totally agree.
#25
lol, i would take this over almost any car in the world!
Last edited by catchmyshadow; 02-08-2012 at 09:35 AM.
#26
catchmyshadow,
Out of curiosity, have you driven the 991? You've expressed approval of the car, but I don't recall reading your specific comments on it.
Out of curiosity, have you driven the 991? You've expressed approval of the car, but I don't recall reading your specific comments on it.
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