"Porsche Engineer Predicts Manual-Transmission 911 Could Die by 2020" - Automobile
#46
02-23-2012, 07:29 PM
Driving a manual is like having sex. Both involve effort, aren't always done well, but offer a unique pleasure. Some people enjoy sex more than others, and the latter will never fully understand the zeal of the former. And the former will never want to give it up unless their libido diminishes.
#49
02-23-2012, 07:49 PM
I find it interesting (and pleasantly surprising) that in the US even with the delay in the Manual being released, STILL half of the people want manuals. Almost makes me want to shed a tear. And the US is still Porsche's largest market, so if this guy thinks they will stop making manual and risk missing out on all of those sales, he's smoking. Porsche execs want to recoup money invested in the transmission, so a lot of this is political in convincing us how much grander the PDK is regardless of how less engaging the drive is.
As for monotony, every time you push the clutch in to rev match, it's a different experience and one that takes focus to get right. From the timing of depressing the clutch pedal, to letting off the gas, to doing all that in reverse while rowing the gear to one of 6 (now 7) different positions. You could get in the car with 10 different people and that feel altogether different 10 different times based on experience and skill level. Try that with a PDK and see if anything feels different. Clicking a paddle or flipping a button and making everything feel the same is the definition of monotony and certainly more so than rowing gears.
As for monotony, every time you push the clutch in to rev match, it's a different experience and one that takes focus to get right. From the timing of depressing the clutch pedal, to letting off the gas, to doing all that in reverse while rowing the gear to one of 6 (now 7) different positions. You could get in the car with 10 different people and that feel altogether different 10 different times based on experience and skill level. Try that with a PDK and see if anything feels different. Clicking a paddle or flipping a button and making everything feel the same is the definition of monotony and certainly more so than rowing gears.
well said...
I have no problem with people getting PDK. Its a great system and faster; but not better.
Why?
IMO nothing beats the feel of balancing a car to go fast thru a corner. Driving at the limits is about physical and sensory inputs. When you drive a manual its another input in working towards that balance. It makes it more of a challenge and yes I'm slower than the computer. But I can live with it.
#50
02-23-2012, 07:50 PM
Not wine, have been listening to Steven Tyler's (Aerosmith) autobiography. Amazing stories about sex and so much else. Highly recommended!
#51
02-23-2012, 07:53 PM
well said...
I have no problem with people getting PDK. Its a great system and faster; but not better.
Why?
IMO nothing beats the feel of balancing a car to go fast thru a corner. Driving at the limits is about physical and sensory inputs. When you drive a manual its another input in working towards that balance. It makes it more of a challenge and yes I'm slower than the computer. But I can live with it.
I have no problem with people getting PDK. Its a great system and faster; but not better.
Why?
IMO nothing beats the feel of balancing a car to go fast thru a corner. Driving at the limits is about physical and sensory inputs. When you drive a manual its another input in working towards that balance. It makes it more of a challenge and yes I'm slower than the computer. But I can live with it.
#52
02-23-2012, 07:56 PM
both are good..and my god..that color combo you got is awesome...pdk or not!
#56
02-24-2012, 08:42 AM
ChuckJ
#57
02-25-2012, 10:54 PM
Completely agree
Amen. I've driven multiple sports cars with a stick through the worst traffic jams, no problem at all. I just don't get the complaint about it. I once took a 430 with 6 speed through two hours of stop and go, and recently had my Superformance Cobra in stop and go city traffic - shifting wasn't even an issue, the frustration of being stuck in traffic (and worrying about getting nudged by another car) was the problem, not shifting - in fact I fully agree with your sentiment here: at least with the shift I had something to do to stay focused and provide a tiny bit of interest.
BTW, the two hour traffic jam was on the way to the racetrack, I certainly noticed the stick shift there - how much awesome fun it was, that is!
BTW, the two hour traffic jam was on the way to the racetrack, I certainly noticed the stick shift there - how much awesome fun it was, that is!
I've driven both types and, as was said elsewhere, for me it's not whether it's a button or a paddle (though I certainly do prefer paddles to buttons), it's that either way you're just flipping an electric switch. Boring, IMO. Impressive, but boring. Eric, you're right, it's like a video game -- and that's the problem. I don't want my car to feel like a video game, I want it to feel like a machine.
BTW, as far as driving a 3-pedal car in traffic, that has never bothered me even the littlest bit. At least it gives you something to do.
BTW, as far as driving a 3-pedal car in traffic, that has never bothered me even the littlest bit. At least it gives you something to do.
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