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Old 02-23-2012 | 04:21 PM
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Wink So what shortcuts did Porsche get into with the 991 this time?

Hopefully no RMS or IMS, or plastic coolant pipes or 2nd gear pop-outs etc. So what will it be this time gear-heads?? I bet some of you have already jacked up the car and pushed and pulled on about everything below and above the belt. What is there that you just don't like?
 
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Old 02-23-2012 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hroussard
Hopefully no RMS or IMS, or plastic coolant pipes or 2nd gear pop-outs etc. So what will it be this time gear-heads?? I bet some of you have already jacked up the car and pushed and pulled on about everything below and above the belt. What is there that you just don't like?
Any new model will always have a "time will tell" stigma attached to it but we are talking Porsche here and as a general rule of thumb they are very good in managing any issues that do arise. One could only hope they have got everything right but eitherway i personally wouldn't see it as any real deterent in buying a new model car in the first 12 months.

The upside to owning the new car as soon as possible is that you get your 3 years out of it until the revised .2 car breaks covers so when it's nearing the time it's coming out of lease it allows you to get out of the car at a good price, because once the .2 is physically out the .1 car always loses a much bigger chunk in value than it does in the years when it's still current as the latest. So for those that can afford to be in the latest iteration, being in the new car early as possible is a great way of managing the financial cost of changing over to the next latest and greatest.

The other side to that equation is waiting 12 months for all the orders to be cleared enabling a better environment to screw a better deal....that is if you can. It's a tough one to know which is the better route but it ultimately comes down to where you presently sit in your existing car. If your not bored with it or yearning for the new look and are prepared to take further depreciation then holding off may have benefits, but at one point there is a price to pay and we all know cars never appreciate in value as a general rule. It's a matter of accepting the real annual cost of ownership and factoring that it to any future decision you plan on making. The experts will say the best time financially to get out of any new car is between its 2nd and 3rd year but how many of us do that. We all get stuck on the changeover dollars at one point and hope it will get better. Never seems to.
 

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Originally Posted by Dharn55
Oh you cynic you
. I am just AMAZED that none of the Porsche gearheads have been banging their heads underneath the 991 and came up the flaw-of-the-century. After all it's a complete new engine, gearbox and engine sound box. There has to be something that got changed last minute to get the beast into production... like a missing fuel cap
 
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Originally Posted by hroussard
Hopefully no RMS or IMS, or plastic coolant pipes or 2nd gear pop-outs etc. So what will it be this time gear-heads?? I bet some of you have already jacked up the car and pushed and pulled on about everything below and above the belt. What is there that you just don't like?
So far the biggest cut I've noticed is the lap time around the 'ring.
 
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Short cuts on the 991

OK, so let me start off. I think if the 991 interior would have been presented on a Nissan or an Infinity... the press would have vomited over it from a great height. It is un-inmaginative and looks like they let the Swedish designers for the IKEA chain loose on the design in the deep cold Scandinavian winter without having their Lebenswasser close-by. The middle section is way to high and separates the cabin in boxes to the extent that the interior now looks very small and closed-in. The dash-board lay-out in front of the passenger is ... well... underwhelming. There is just nothing on the inside that extrudes the feeling and the belief that the car is actually a top notch sport car. Just my 3 cents!
 

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991 Interior

This is how Audi does it.... in a cheap TT.... well, sort of cheap. This looks like a speeding ticket in the making... The Porsche interior looks like Dad forgot his slippers somewhere.
 
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Ikea.
 
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Didn't IKEA buy Porsche? Oh no, that was VW
 
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Didn't IKEA buy Porsche? Oh no, that was VW
Looking at the center console, they possibly could have
 
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Originally Posted by hroussard
OK, so let me start off. I think if the 991 interior would have been presented on a Nissan or an Infinity... the press would have vomited over it from a great height. It is un-inmaginative and looks like they let the Swedish designers for the IKEA chain loose on the design in the deep cold Scandinavian winter without having their Lebenswasser close-by. The middle section is way to high and separates the cabin in boxes to the extent that the interior now looks very small and closed-in. The dash-board lay-out in front of the passenger is ... well... underwhelming. There is just nothing on the inside that extrudes the feeling and the belief that the car is actually a top notch sport car. Just my 3 cents!
You've lost me. Everyone reporting on the driving experience says the cabin feels bigger than 997 and is way more luxuriant in fit finish and materials used than 997....a major step up. Nissan? Ikea.....you're kidding right?
 
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Originally Posted by speed21
You've lost me. Everyone reporting on the driving experience says the cabin feels bigger than 997 and is way more luxuriant in fit finish and materials used than 997....a major step up. Nissan? Ikea.....you're kidding right?
He's gunning for your attention - preferably your negative attention.
 
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the rising center console is derived from the mighty CGT, can`t see how this is a bad thing.
 
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I think Dharn 55 sees it. But to the rest of you.. really, I truly believe the interior is below par... big time. When you look at the quality it is pretty well Infinity standard ( unless you pay an extra 5 k for full leather and some dual color options. It also does not really extrudes the feeling of sitting in and driving in a sports car. Just my 2 cents... Hey I have a 996 and I think the 996 was a great jump ahead from the interior perspective and the 997 was just a little bit better than the 996 in my eyes. Porsche has a greatest interior car designers in the family (Audi) . It boggles the mind that they did not go and ask some advice. The idea of designing a sports car is that it does invite the driver to actively participate in the driving. The idea is not to passively look through the front wind screen and monitor the 7 different displays as an innocent bystander. This is exactly how IKEA would design that interior. Acceptable for the 80 percent of standard folks but not for the 20% die-hard fans.
 

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