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Old 03-19-2012, 08:20 PM
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Great review! Finally clarkson becomes a porsche fan. can't wait to see it on TG UK.
 
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Originally Posted by ChuckJ
This was Top Gear's review of the 997 turbo vs 430. I can't wait to hear what he thinks of a 991 turbo.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO7XvOt9suM&feature=fvsr
This is fun. I owned both cars at the same time and he is right.
 
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Raise your hand if you just read that review with Clarkson's voice in your head.
Hand up!
 
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Decent review by Clarkson and truth be told, Clarkson is probably more of a Porsche fan than he would ever admit. I have to admit that while I have personally examined the new 991s, I have yet to drive one; preferring to wait for the Turbo - the only 991 I might consider. Being a long time Porsche fanatic and current owner of a 997 Turbo I have to say I was somewhat displeased with the new 991. The sun roof is an abomination, the rear end looks like a morphed Panamera rear end, and the ****pit is also very much Panamera-like. All in all a disappointment. My fear with Volkswagen as owner and the announcement of a new small Porsche SUV on an Audi platform, that we are witnessing the weakening of the Porsche marque toward a more generic automobile manufacturer. I hope I am wrong. But, if I am not, we will be watching an industry leading 18% profit margin manufacturer of arguably the finest affordable high performance cars in the world devolve into something that few true Porschephiles would even acknowledge as Porsches.
 
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Originally Posted by Sapster

Clarkson’s verdict:*A fab carmade useless*by a puncture
Wonder if there is a "hack" spare solution for these cars like we have in the 997? If not, that really is a shame - makes it sort of a "near the city" / "near the dealer" sort of a car: fun car, but you need a spare car with working tires nearby in case of flats.



 
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Originally Posted by stevepow
Wonder if there is a "hack" spare solution for these cars like we have in the 997? If not, that really is a shame - makes it sort of a "near the city" / "near the dealer" sort of a car: fun car, but you need a spare car with working tires nearby in case of flats.



Well the solution in the 997 might get you to a safe place or the nearest tire store but squirting that tire sealer in will destroy the tire pressure sensor and will make a real mess to clean up off the inside of the wheel. Certainly not ideal and won't be cheap to fix but better than being stranded. Of course there is always the Porsche roadside assistance.
 
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I keep a tire plug kit in the car too. It can keep you from having to use sealent. I have one in every car.
 
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Originally Posted by 2008911tt
Well the solution in the 997 might get you to a safe place or the nearest tire store but squirting that tire sealer in will destroy the tire pressure sensor and will make a real mess to clean up off the inside of the wheel. Certainly not ideal and won't be cheap to fix but better than being stranded. Of course there is always the Porsche roadside assistance.
It is also completely useless if you have a blowout and the tire is destroyed. I had this happen in my 987 a week after I bought it and ended up carrying an e-bay spare in the trunk. I still have this spare in the garage and hope it fits on my 991. If not, I'll be looking to get a spare that does fit from elsewhere.
 
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Originally Posted by 2008911tt
Being a long time Porsche fanatic and current owner of a 997 Turbo I have to say I was somewhat displeased with the new 991. The sun roof is an abomination
Then don't order it with one.

the rear end looks like a morphed Panamera rear end, and the ****pit is also very much Panamera-like.
Looks absolutely nothing like the Panamera.
 
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Then don't order it with one.



Looks absolutely nothing like the Panamera.
1) Everyone gets to have and voice an opinion. And you are totally correct - if he does not like it he will not buy it. I did and mine is about 10 nautical miles from port right now passing Newport R.I. - But then, I like his 997tt also.

2) I heard that the Volkswagen deal was off - lots of litigation flying around about it - they wanted to complete the deal, but if fell apart - last I heard. Anyone have more up to date news?

As for the "flat", I am sure that the tires will be more available as time goes on. Has anyone looked into run-flats or other tires for daily drivers and using the stock for track days and the like - I must say, I have seen people with 911's that have trailer hitches and pull small trailers with tires and tools to track events - very handy, but I can never get used to the way it looks - enigmatic to say the least.
 
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Originally Posted by AG991
1) Everyone gets to have and voice an opinion. And you are totally correct - if he does not like it he will not buy it. I did and mine is about 10 nautical miles from port right now passing Newport R.I. - But then, I like his 997tt also.

2) I heard that the Volkswagen deal was off - lots of litigation flying around about it - they wanted to complete the deal, but if fell apart - last I heard. Anyone have more up to date news?

As for the "flat", I am sure that the tires will be more available as time goes on. Has anyone looked into run-flats or other tires for daily drivers and using the stock for track days and the like - I must say, I have seen people with 911's that have trailer hitches and pull small trailers with tires and tools to track events - very handy, but I can never get used to the way it looks - enigmatic to say the least.
Problem with run-flats is that they greatly reduce the volume of air inside the tire so with low profile tires (which already have a low-er volume) those run-flats would make the ride VERY harsh.

Wish someone would come up with a system that deploys a rapidly expending foam which hardens upon contact with air in case of a flat... hey now there's an idea you could make some $$ off
 
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A clear verdict in favor of the S.
Let it go......
 
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Originally Posted by Psycho Sid
Problem with run-flats is that they greatly reduce the volume of air inside the tire so with low profile tires (which already have a low-er volume) those run-flats would make the ride VERY harsh.

Wish someone would come up with a system that deploys a rapidly expending foam which hardens upon contact with air in case of a flat... hey now there's an idea you could make some $$ off
Speaking professionally, it is better not to announce your invention to the world until after you file a patent application. That said, that would be a good idea, but the gelling speed, given the rotational velocity of the wheel would be challenging - that and the fact that a tire is already filled with air to begin with so it is already in contact. I guess a nitrogen fill might get ride of that problem. Sorry, this is what happens when you give an idea to a patent attorney!
 
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Originally Posted by AG991
Speaking professionally, it is better not to announce your invention to the world until after you file a patent application. That said, that would be a good idea, but the gelling speed, given the rotational velocity of the wheel would be challenging - that and the fact that a tire is already filled with air to begin with so it is already in contact. I guess a nitrogen fill might get ride of that problem. Sorry, this is what happens when you give an idea to a patent attorney!
No I was trowing the idea out to you, your the master of invention.
With all those good ideas you've been floating i figured you'll probably be able to make this one work somehow.
Hmmm I know what it needs...while one waits on the side of the road for the foam to expand and harden, maybe we could use the thermal properties of the chemical reaction to produce a nice hot cappuccino.
 


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