Flooded with PDK Cars..
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03-20-2012, 08:36 PM
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Flooded with PDK Cars..
Been checking dealer inventories online and I am amazed at the # of PDK cars they have in inventory from both 2011 and 2012 (997/991). Granted the 991 is still only arriving in PDK I wonder whether some are holding out to buy the new rides waiting for the 7speed manual??. Or those that want a 991 PDK are custom ordering versus buying off the lot?? When I was helping my friend shop in the fall for a new 997.2 there were quite a few well optioned out 6MT 997.2s, now its just the crumbs and lots of PDK.
**No this is not a thread for PDK versus MT. I was just curious because from what I am seeing Porsche Canada is having a hard time moving the current inventory so far. Now take the Cayenne and Panamera; still after being out for a few years there is still low supply and for the Cayenne there is not 1 in stock, anywhere! I wonder whether the weather is playing a role but I can't see that being the case it feels like summer here.
My dealer has personally told me that the cars are not moving at the pace they expected and he thinks that a lot of Canadians are waiting for the 4(S) models. Pretty interesting analysis thats all; 911s have never been big movers but you would think that for a new big splash model there would be people lining up at the door! Does not seem to be the case...? :roll eyes: I think discounts are coming.
**No this is not a thread for PDK versus MT. I was just curious because from what I am seeing Porsche Canada is having a hard time moving the current inventory so far. Now take the Cayenne and Panamera; still after being out for a few years there is still low supply and for the Cayenne there is not 1 in stock, anywhere! I wonder whether the weather is playing a role but I can't see that being the case it feels like summer here.
My dealer has personally told me that the cars are not moving at the pace they expected and he thinks that a lot of Canadians are waiting for the 4(S) models. Pretty interesting analysis thats all; 911s have never been big movers but you would think that for a new big splash model there would be people lining up at the door! Does not seem to be the case...? :roll eyes: I think discounts are coming.
#4
03-20-2012, 11:36 PM
Maybe P is just delivering on their agreed emmissions targets. If you want a manual, order one and to hell with the few extra Co2's i say. Just means there will be some deals around on those PDk's if they can't shift em. Hey now here's an idea. Boycott buying anything PDK and wait for end of financial year sales.
#5
03-21-2012, 01:27 AM
Been checking dealer inventories online and I am amazed at the # of PDK cars they have in inventory from both 2011 and 2012 (997/991). Granted the 991 is still only arriving in PDK I wonder whether some are holding out to buy the new rides waiting for the 7speed manual??. Or those that want a 991 PDK are custom ordering versus buying off the lot?? When I was helping my friend shop in the fall for a new 997.2 there were quite a few well optioned out 6MT 997.2s, now its just the crumbs and lots of PDK.
**No this is not a thread for PDK versus MT. I was just curious because from what I am seeing Porsche Canada is having a hard time moving the current inventory so far. Now take the Cayenne and Panamera; still after being out for a few years there is still low supply and for the Cayenne there is not 1 in stock, anywhere! I wonder whether the weather is playing a role but I can't see that being the case it feels like summer here.
My dealer has personally told me that the cars are not moving at the pace they expected and he thinks that a lot of Canadians are waiting for the 4(S) models. Pretty interesting analysis thats all; 911s have never been big movers but you would think that for a new big splash model there would be people lining up at the door! Does not seem to be the case...? :roll eyes: I think discounts are coming.
**No this is not a thread for PDK versus MT. I was just curious because from what I am seeing Porsche Canada is having a hard time moving the current inventory so far. Now take the Cayenne and Panamera; still after being out for a few years there is still low supply and for the Cayenne there is not 1 in stock, anywhere! I wonder whether the weather is playing a role but I can't see that being the case it feels like summer here.
My dealer has personally told me that the cars are not moving at the pace they expected and he thinks that a lot of Canadians are waiting for the 4(S) models. Pretty interesting analysis thats all; 911s have never been big movers but you would think that for a new big splash model there would be people lining up at the door! Does not seem to be the case...? :roll eyes: I think discounts are coming.
Here in socal, pdk out numbers mt about 2-3:1 in the carrera lines. But I think that is to be expected as porsche is trying to widen the market. I've said this before, and I'll say it again...I could never ever buy a mt for street driving in California.
The most interesting point that you brought up is that the 991 is not moving as fast as they thought they would. At least in socal (not in texas or other states) they are starting to collect dust. I too smell deep discounts on the '12 models, which works out perfectly for me. I love it and relish these fine moments. Dealers who snubbed me when I asked for a discount are now frantically calling me to strike a deal. Ha! I love how the winds are changing in my favor.
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03-21-2012, 03:10 AM
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03-21-2012, 03:13 AM
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Rep Power: 84 You raise a LOT of interesting points.
Here in socal, pdk out numbers mt about 2-3:1 in the carrera lines. But I think that is to be expected as porsche is trying to widen the market. I've said this before, and I'll say it again...I could never ever buy a mt for street driving in California.
The most interesting point that you brought up is that the 991 is not moving as fast as they thought they would. At least in socal (not in texas or other states) they are starting to collect dust. I too smell deep discounts on the '12 models, which works out perfectly for me. I love it and relish these fine moments. Dealers who snubbed me when I asked for a discount are now frantically calling me to strike a deal. Ha! I love how the winds are changing in my favor.
Here in socal, pdk out numbers mt about 2-3:1 in the carrera lines. But I think that is to be expected as porsche is trying to widen the market. I've said this before, and I'll say it again...I could never ever buy a mt for street driving in California.
The most interesting point that you brought up is that the 991 is not moving as fast as they thought they would. At least in socal (not in texas or other states) they are starting to collect dust. I too smell deep discounts on the '12 models, which works out perfectly for me. I love it and relish these fine moments. Dealers who snubbed me when I asked for a discount are now frantically calling me to strike a deal. Ha! I love how the winds are changing in my favor.
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#8
03-21-2012, 03:18 AM
I knw that my MT car was the first MT allocation my dealer was given the completion date was last Thursday and it is due into port next Tuesday.
I would expect to start to see the MT cars showing up soon.
I would expect to start to see the MT cars showing up soon.
#9
03-21-2012, 05:30 AM
I got about 2.5% off sticker when ordering my 991 MT. in NYC I think they are selling the crap out of PDK cars.
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03-21-2012, 06:26 AM
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#11
03-21-2012, 06:49 PM
i have also been amazed at the PDK inventories in canada. we know the 991 came out that way, but the collection of GTS and turbo variants has a remarkable head count of PDK's.
i wonder if there is some back end discoutning to the dealors. they are still asking the same premiums for PDK & lets face it SC has to be added, so the prices are the same but they have rolled off a lot of the original development costs so it would be easy to kick back to the dealor.
i wonder if there is some back end discoutning to the dealors. they are still asking the same premiums for PDK & lets face it SC has to be added, so the prices are the same but they have rolled off a lot of the original development costs so it would be easy to kick back to the dealor.
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#12
03-21-2012, 06:54 PM
Maybe P is just delivering on their agreed emmissions targets. If you want a manual, order one and to hell with the few extra Co2's i say. Just means there will be some deals around on those PDk's if they can't shift em. Hey now here's an idea. Boycott buying anything PDK and wait for end of financial year sales.
I bet they produce a boat load of those things.
#13
03-21-2012, 07:13 PM
Yep noticed the same thing.
I think the main reason for all those PDK's is the extra $$, the fact they won't have to deal with costly warranty repairs because of owners "varying" driving styles and because it is a very, very good system.
I'm waiting for a MT cause I figure if you're going to spend that kind of$$ might as well get exactly what you want!
That said, the wait is sooo damn long though that I had my dealer give me all the builds for coming lot allocations just to see if I could make one work.
Guess what... the builds are ridiculous!
MT with SC, PDK without CS, 140K builds but you have seats with a handle to move it back and forth or my personal favorite... a base which have virtually EVERYTHING on it and cost more than nicely loaded S...
Seems these build are done by the factory and the dealer has no say in it.
Regardless I'm dying to see what the new C4S is going to look like!
Cheers!
I think the main reason for all those PDK's is the extra $$, the fact they won't have to deal with costly warranty repairs because of owners "varying" driving styles and because it is a very, very good system.
I'm waiting for a MT cause I figure if you're going to spend that kind of$$ might as well get exactly what you want!
That said, the wait is sooo damn long though that I had my dealer give me all the builds for coming lot allocations just to see if I could make one work.
Guess what... the builds are ridiculous!
MT with SC, PDK without CS, 140K builds but you have seats with a handle to move it back and forth or my personal favorite... a base which have virtually EVERYTHING on it and cost more than nicely loaded S...
Seems these build are done by the factory and the dealer has no say in it.
Regardless I'm dying to see what the new C4S is going to look like!
Cheers!
At least here in the lower 48, I understand that the dealers have a lot to say about some of the options. I called one dealer and not a single car ordered with voice control - guy who orders them does not like that option. Another dealer, it was hard to find a car without VC.
Strange.
#14
03-21-2012, 07:20 PM
Do the sales numbers back up these "slower" sales? My local dealer keeps one as a demo, sold any other allocations so far, and they mentioned the other day that their wait/delivery time for 991 ordered now is September.
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03-21-2012, 07:47 PM
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