My impression on 991 vs 987.2
#1
03-22-2012, 08:52 AM
My impression on 991 vs 987.2
I just sold my gen 2 CS my 2011 and replaced it with new 991S with the same color combination, Carrera white exterior + Carrera red interior.
Yesterday, I drove my 991S through my favorite urban road at the same pace as my previous gen 2 CS. I would like to give my impressions.
- Cornering: 991S can carry the same/more speed through the corners against CS however, I can feel many electronic aids (PTV, PDCC, PSM, Dynamic engine mounts) are working hard to keep the car balance as oppose to when I corner my CS, I feel more mechanical grip, more balance, it is just so simple to do it on CS.
- Exit speed: exit speed is amazing on 991S because it has a more powerful engine + bigger rear tire, but then I have to time it right as when to floor the pedal if not then 991S will show you that it is still a tailed heavy car. A bit nervous at times but soon you will learn how to control it, then it is more fun. I have a little doubt that if Cayman get the same power + tire, it might outperform 911.
- Braking: 991S is still superior because of bigger brakes and tires
- PDCC: When I corner my CS, I can feel the car's limit through many factors and one of important factors is body roll. 991S with PDCC, it can give you more confident when cornering and my mind say "yes, my car has PDCC". For me, some times it is more difficult to judge the limit since the car just keep going and going with very little body roll. I need a bit more time to learn to find the limit. My previous CS is just plain simple to reach the limit (of my driving skill of course).
- PDK, I must admitted that new PDK in 991S is way better than previous gen PDK. It is much quicker and smoother to change gears, it makes the previous gen PDK look like an old auto box. Of course this will be the same for new 981.
- Steering: the precision is more or less the same however the steering feel is less in 991. If Cayman is 10/10 then I will give new 991 = 7/10.
- Exhaust sound: 991S with PSE = racing car exhaust sound, period.
- Exterior: I always prefer the design of 987.2 over 997. This is the first time that I think that Porsche has done an excellent job on the exterior design of 991 (since 993), it might look similar to 997 at first sight but it actually has a better proportion, and it is one of the most beautiful Porsche to my eye.
- Interior: my previous cayman has full Carrera red natural leather interior so it didn't not feel interiorer to new 991S. The fit and finish is more or less the same. I may be the only one person that would prefer the old cabin layout of 997/987 instead of new one. I find that it is not good to place buttons lower in the center console as you need to turn your head down to find where is the right button. When you need to operate air con above PDK, it is also a problem since you can not see all buttons so I need to lean forward just to see the right buttons ( my car is right handed)
I never drive any 911 before so I could not give my impression of how it compares to the old 911. I do not think that 991S has less handling ability to the Cayman but it will take time to learn how to master it. In that sense, I think CS is superior.
Yesterday, I drove my 991S through my favorite urban road at the same pace as my previous gen 2 CS. I would like to give my impressions.
- Cornering: 991S can carry the same/more speed through the corners against CS however, I can feel many electronic aids (PTV, PDCC, PSM, Dynamic engine mounts) are working hard to keep the car balance as oppose to when I corner my CS, I feel more mechanical grip, more balance, it is just so simple to do it on CS.
- Exit speed: exit speed is amazing on 991S because it has a more powerful engine + bigger rear tire, but then I have to time it right as when to floor the pedal if not then 991S will show you that it is still a tailed heavy car. A bit nervous at times but soon you will learn how to control it, then it is more fun. I have a little doubt that if Cayman get the same power + tire, it might outperform 911.
- Braking: 991S is still superior because of bigger brakes and tires
- PDCC: When I corner my CS, I can feel the car's limit through many factors and one of important factors is body roll. 991S with PDCC, it can give you more confident when cornering and my mind say "yes, my car has PDCC". For me, some times it is more difficult to judge the limit since the car just keep going and going with very little body roll. I need a bit more time to learn to find the limit. My previous CS is just plain simple to reach the limit (of my driving skill of course).
- PDK, I must admitted that new PDK in 991S is way better than previous gen PDK. It is much quicker and smoother to change gears, it makes the previous gen PDK look like an old auto box. Of course this will be the same for new 981.
- Steering: the precision is more or less the same however the steering feel is less in 991. If Cayman is 10/10 then I will give new 991 = 7/10.
- Exhaust sound: 991S with PSE = racing car exhaust sound, period.
- Exterior: I always prefer the design of 987.2 over 997. This is the first time that I think that Porsche has done an excellent job on the exterior design of 991 (since 993), it might look similar to 997 at first sight but it actually has a better proportion, and it is one of the most beautiful Porsche to my eye.
- Interior: my previous cayman has full Carrera red natural leather interior so it didn't not feel interiorer to new 991S. The fit and finish is more or less the same. I may be the only one person that would prefer the old cabin layout of 997/987 instead of new one. I find that it is not good to place buttons lower in the center console as you need to turn your head down to find where is the right button. When you need to operate air con above PDK, it is also a problem since you can not see all buttons so I need to lean forward just to see the right buttons ( my car is right handed)
I never drive any 911 before so I could not give my impression of how it compares to the old 911. I do not think that 991S has less handling ability to the Cayman but it will take time to learn how to master it. In that sense, I think CS is superior.
Last edited by iambon; 03-22-2012 at 05:57 PM. Reason: another forum
please post photos
#5
03-22-2012, 02:56 PM
Moved from a Cayman R to the 991S and share a lot of the same impressions (except for the cabin that I definitely find way better in the 991). The 991S is a superior machine in many ways but is less 'natural'. I am very happy with it though.
Now we want pics!!!
Now we want pics!!!
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#10
03-22-2012, 06:20 PM
Thanks for the post. The pdcc comment I have heard with a test review(that it somewhat hides the limit of the car without the natural body roll). I have gone from an 06 997 to a Panamera and quickly to a Boxster Spyder to hold me over for the 991, but time spent with the Spyder on the track with a PNCA provided 997, I have stalled on my 991 purchase as I now really enjoy the feel of the mid-engine. I am waiting for the new Cayman S to arrive to determine the next purchase. I really enjoyed my Panamera interior, so do think the new interiors are a good move.
Can't wait to hear the exhaust in person as I am sold on PSE after this current Spyder!
BTW, great color combo of your 991!!!
Can't wait to hear the exhaust in person as I am sold on PSE after this current Spyder!
BTW, great color combo of your 991!!!
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03-22-2012, 06:49 PM
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i love the car combo. the new car is more civilized for the greater mass. i am sure once the 991 gt3 comes out, it would be pefect vehicle to move into.
i love the car combo. the new car is more civilized for the greater mass. i am sure once the 991 gt3 comes out, it would be pefect vehicle to move into.
