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Old 04-02-2012, 06:55 PM
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If you decide to track your 991...its best to pay attention

First, my apologies for the misleading title. I was working with the video and pressed the wrong button before finished.


I realized the boxster driver was not that good....so I backed off a little.

Note: Please realize that this is in a more advance group.


 

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Old 04-02-2012, 07:27 PM
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He showed up in on the grass patch too. He was making sure you don't pass him.
 
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You got lucky there!

If a car breaks traction in a corner, 99.8% of the time it will drift to the outside of the corner. You're almost always safer to hold/tighten your line and let him drift outside of you. Following him into the runoff just means there's an extra car out of control, and it gives him an extra chance to connect with you.
 
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:35 PM
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That's amazing, his spin looked unprovoked. Did you ever find out what caused it?

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Old 04-02-2012, 07:44 PM
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That's amazing, his spin looked unprovoked. Did you ever find out what caused it?

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Yes...I spoke to him afterwards. He over corrected when the car slide a little.
 
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Originally Posted by jordanpryce
You got lucky there!

If a car breaks traction in a corner, 99.8% of the time it will drift to the outside of the corner. You're almost always safer to hold/tighten your line and let him drift outside of you. Following him into the runoff just means there's an extra car out of control, and it gives him an extra chance to connect with you.
Yes. I was lucky and you are correct. It most cases it is better to drive towards the spin. But due to the angle of the camera I am a little closer than it looks.

I moved to the outside because at turn 12 in NJMP tightening too quickly means ending up on the concrete and there is allot of run off outside and it was dry.

I had my eyes I him and was pretty sure he was coming my way. You see me moving away from him as he moves in front of me.
 
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Another theory is that if someone spins in front of you, aim for where they let go. Odds are they won't be there when you arrive. That works fine......until it doesn't. Best,
 
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OK this is a video you in a 997 avoiding a boxter... what on earth is it doing in the 991 section?
 
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That's pretty crazy. Good on you for avoiding him as you were the only one in control of the situation. Could've been a bad day for both of you.
 
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Spectacular and amazing!!!
 
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:01 AM
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This kind of thing can happen at any track when you overheat the guy in front of you. You can see the guy in the boxster is clearly struggling at 10 10ths and BW was asking for trouble hunting him so close. The smart thing to have done would have been to have kept less pressure on him, let him relax a little and just waited until the last turn coming onto the straight and used your superior corner speed and braking technique to launch into the corner, brake hard and then power out on past the apex overtaking him down the straight. I note shortly after the spin out a swarm of other fast cars went through so obviously between BW and the Boxster they were both basically just causing a nuisance to those behind. A lack of driver patience (BW) combined with a less experienced driver in a lesser powered car not prepared to relinquish position is a disaster in the making. If the guy kept it up you would be better off pulling into pit lane and reporting the idiot. There is no best way of avoiding this other than using strategy and intelligence as the superior driver in the faster car. That was definitely not happening here and whilst it made for some viewing entertainment it was more of a lesson in exactly what not to do, rather than what to do. IMHO BW was damn lucky his little red wagon is still in one piece along with his over inflated ego.

Incidentally this is a 997 car you are in, not a 991, so technically belongs in the 997 forums anyway. I guess teaching 991 drivers how to drive and what to watch out for is a nice gesture but I'm quite sure that not every one who owns a 991 is as hopeless as you must think BW. Patience is a virtue. Fwiw, you should exercise that on the track in future and not get so caught up with your camera. And next time, how bout we see some gear shifting and some speed and RPM's etc. Seems odd how a floundering boxster can cause so much pain to a self proclaimed "expert" in a worked 997...
 
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Originally Posted by Elias74
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Thanks.

I realized long before the guy was struggling and backed off.

But it's not to often you see a boxster spin.
 
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:59 AM
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Thanks for the comments guys.

Some of you really know your stuff.
 
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Originally Posted by buckwheat986
Thanks.

I realized long before the guy was struggling and backed off.

But it's not to often you see a boxster spin.
Didn't look like it. A boxster in the hands of an obvious amateur at 10 10ths is bound to have an off. As i said patience would have probably kept him on and yourself out that situation. Its called strategy BW....and common sense.
 
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:16 AM
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Didn't look like it. A boxster in the hands of an obvious amateur at 10 10ths is bound to have an off. As i said patience would have probably kept him on and yourself out that situation. Its called strategy BW....and common sense.
We were in the white run group...which is an intermediate-advanced group of solo drivers.. I have been on the track with him before. He probable has 3-4 years of experience.

I was on him in what we call the jersey devil (the twists) and I backed off in the S's. You can see how close I am at the 6-16 second mark and how I let him pull ahead after that.

Thanks, I appreciate your advice.
 

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