S or 4S. Which would you prefer and why?
#32
When I went from a Cayman S to 911 (997.2) I first tried the C2s and simply did not like the steering compared to the Cayman,.....just a bit too light and vague for my tastes. Then I tried a C4S and loved it. Steering was a little bit heavier and the car felt more planted. The additional width in back was also very much to my liking.
Fast forward,...I now have on order a 991s, not 4s. With the 991 the steering is now "right" in my mind (yeah, go figure) and it feels even more planted compared to the old gen 4s. I believe the width is even the same now in back. So for me, there is no real reason to go with a 4s this time,.....but other than that I have absolutely no argument against a 4s, I can only immagine the new version will be awesome.
Fast forward,...I now have on order a 991s, not 4s. With the 991 the steering is now "right" in my mind (yeah, go figure) and it feels even more planted compared to the old gen 4s. I believe the width is even the same now in back. So for me, there is no real reason to go with a 4s this time,.....but other than that I have absolutely no argument against a 4s, I can only immagine the new version will be awesome.
#33
Fast forward,...I now have on order a 991s, not 4s. With the 991 the steering is now "right" in my mind (yeah, go figure) and it feels even more planted compared to the old gen 4s. I believe the width is even the same now in back. So for me, there is no real reason to go with a 4s this time,.....but other than that I have absolutely no argument against a 4s, I can only immagine the new version will be awesome.
#35
Smaller trunk, more weight, more cost. Are you really going to be driving in weather such that it matters? I know there are snow tires, but this thing is so low, as it is, you would beach on a snow drift all of 3 inches high!
If you like a big caboose, like Sid (Hi Sid!) fine and I am sure there are times that 4 drive wheels are an advantage. But for me the C2S with PDCC was the answer. Enjoy. Either will be great!
If you like a big caboose, like Sid (Hi Sid!) fine and I am sure there are times that 4 drive wheels are an advantage. But for me the C2S with PDCC was the answer. Enjoy. Either will be great!
#36
Smaller trunk, more weight, more cost. Are you really going to be driving in weather such that it matters? I know there are snow tires, but this thing is so low, as it is, you would beach on a snow drift all of 3 inches high!
If you like a big caboose, like Sid (Hi Sid!) fine and I am sure there are times that 4 drive wheels are an advantage. But for me the C2S with PDCC was the answer. Enjoy. Either will be great!
If you like a big caboose, like Sid (Hi Sid!) fine and I am sure there are times that 4 drive wheels are an advantage. But for me the C2S with PDCC was the answer. Enjoy. Either will be great!
Do you drive yours in the snow in New Jersey? How does it drive? Winter tires? Chains?
ChuckJ
#38
But I have no intention of driving in the snow. I was only partially kidding about the ground clearence. More to the I don't want to drive through all of the salt, sand and filth thatis on the roads in winter. If I can find a clear day when the roads are not totally covered with all of that, I will take it out.
#39
When I looked at the 4s of the 997, the trunk was literally half the size. The back, deeper half was taken up by the front wheel drive. I just assume that will be the case for the 991 as well.
#40
There was no snow to drive it in this year. I picked mine up at the end of March, but we only had snow on Halloween last year.
But I have no intention of driving in the snow. I was only partially kidding about the ground clearence. More to the I don't want to drive through all of the salt, sand and filth thatis on the roads in winter. If I can find a clear day when the roads are not totally covered with all of that, I will take it out.
But I have no intention of driving in the snow. I was only partially kidding about the ground clearence. More to the I don't want to drive through all of the salt, sand and filth thatis on the roads in winter. If I can find a clear day when the roads are not totally covered with all of that, I will take it out.
ChuckJ
#41
Directly no. But I have a good friend who,lives in the hills outside of Munich toward the Black Forest. He used his 997.2 Targa as a DD, including in the snow. He said the 4 wheel drive did quite well. But his car was a lease so he never intended to keep it.
#43
Smaller trunk, more weight, more cost. Are you really going to be driving in weather such that it matters? I know there are snow tires, but this thing is so low, as it is, you would beach on a snow drift all of 3 inches high!
If you like a big caboose, like Sid (Hi Sid!) fine and I am sure there are times that 4 drive wheels are an advantage. But for me the C2S with PDCC was the answer. Enjoy. Either will be great!
If you like a big caboose, like Sid (Hi Sid!) fine and I am sure there are times that 4 drive wheels are an advantage. But for me the C2S with PDCC was the answer. Enjoy. Either will be great!
I just can't help myself... I LOVEEEE that wide rear end!
I do like the extra planted feel of the AWD as well but like you I do not drive the 911 in winter, too much crap on the roads (salt, gravel and sliding vehicles...) not to mention that it would turn into a snowplow pretty quickly...
That said I have taken the C4S on a few days with fresh fluffy snow covered mountain roads and even on a frozen lake with a figure 8 circuit... man that was fun and the C4S handles amazingly, truly mind boggling!
But other than that the C4S stays nice and comfy in the garage till spring.
BTW I got a confirmation from my dealer that the 991 C4S will start production in Jan with delivery in March/April.
I have never had the patience to wait this long for a car...EVER!
Must be getting old.
#44
Hey I heard that!
I just can't help myself... I LOVEEEE that wide rear end!
I do like the extra planted feel of the AWD as well but like you I do not drive the 911 in winter, too much crap on the roads (salt, gravel and sliding vehicles...) not to mention that it would turn into a snowplow pretty quickly...
That said I have taken the C4S on a few days with fresh fluffy snow covered mountain roads and even on a frozen lake with a figure 8 circuit... man that was fun and the C4S handles amazingly, truly mind boggling!
But other than that the C4S stays nice and comfy in the garage till spring.
BTW I got a confirmation from my dealer that the 991 C4S will start production in Jan with delivery in March/April.
I have never had the patience to wait this long for a car...EVER!
Must be getting old.
I just can't help myself... I LOVEEEE that wide rear end!
I do like the extra planted feel of the AWD as well but like you I do not drive the 911 in winter, too much crap on the roads (salt, gravel and sliding vehicles...) not to mention that it would turn into a snowplow pretty quickly...
That said I have taken the C4S on a few days with fresh fluffy snow covered mountain roads and even on a frozen lake with a figure 8 circuit... man that was fun and the C4S handles amazingly, truly mind boggling!
But other than that the C4S stays nice and comfy in the garage till spring.
BTW I got a confirmation from my dealer that the 991 C4S will start production in Jan with delivery in March/April.
I have never had the patience to wait this long for a car...EVER!
Must be getting old.
wow...march delivery...really...that's a long way!!!