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Old 07-10-2012 | 11:11 PM
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You guys are starting to hurt my little feelings.. I got most of those options (14 way, not 18 ways, no key pouch, no spacers, or seat crests) + two tone full leather and others (voice control, phone module, clear bra, K40, Pt wheels). I did not go for the Big ticket paint.

I agree it is a strange set of options, especially the expensive paint and cheap interior. Either go cheap or go deluxe but don't try to do both. For me, this is an aspirational car so I went all in. I haven't regretted it.
 
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Old 07-10-2012 | 11:57 PM
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^AG, I'm pretty much copying your exact options.. I think your full build details are perfect!
 
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Old 07-11-2012 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AG991
You guys are starting to hurt my little feelings.. I got most of those options (14 way, not 18 ways, no key pouch, no spacers, or seat crests) + two tone full leather and others (voice control, phone module, clear bra, K40, Pt wheels). I did not go for the Big ticket paint.

I agree it is a strange set of options, especially the expensive paint and cheap interior. Either go cheap or go deluxe but don't try to do both. For me, this is an aspirational car so I went all in. I haven't regretted it.
Nah, it is your car, none of what we said really matters, drive and enjoy it. Options are such personal preference.
 
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Old 07-11-2012 | 06:19 AM
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Thanks guys,
Seriously, some in this thread have asked if Porsche is pricing itself out of the market. Very interesting question. Which market? A base with nothing is more than $90,000 to get out the door. Where is the line between that market and the next?. And as VW completes its purchase of Porsche in August (I am glad I have a 2012 991, one of the last true Porsches - 2013's will be rebadged as a Beetle sport) and VW wants to jack sales from 100,000 to 400,000 units (press accounts) you wonder if it is going to do that with more expensive cars or otherwise. Hard to be expensive and exclusive!
 
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Old 07-11-2012 | 06:21 AM
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^AG, I'm pretty much copying your exact options.. I think your full build details are perfect!
You are obviously a person of exquisite taste! Enjoy it. I love mine!
 
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Old 07-11-2012 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AG991
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Seriously, some in this thread have asked if Porsche is pricing itself out of the market. Very interesting question. Which market? A base with nothing is more than $90,000 to get out the door. Where is the line between that market and the next?. And as VW completes its purchase of Porsche in August (I am glad I have a 2012 991, one of the last true Porsches - 2013's will be rebadged as a Beetle sport) and VW wants to jack sales from 100,000 to 400,000 units (press accounts) you wonder if it is going to do that with more expensive cars or otherwise. Hard to be expensive and exclusive!
Of course I meant inexpensive and exclusive. Sorry.
 
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"Porsche delivered a total of 69,171 vehicles for the first six months of the year, a 14 percent increase compared to the same period last year.

That’s saying a lot as last year’s result was already a record for the automaker, with a total 116,978 Porsches having been sold.

Furthermore, despite concerns of slowing economies around the globe, Porsche’s sales show no signs of going anywhere but up, with the automaker managing to sell 12,699 cars in the month of June alone, an increase of 18.9 percent on last year.

The figure of 14,338 Porsche 911s sold represents 27.9 percent growth for this particular model. And making the result all the more impressive, Porsche’s iconic 911 is still only offered in base Carrera trim for the latest 991 generation."

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...er-record-year
 
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Originally Posted by fbroen
"Porsche delivered a total of 69,171 vehicles for the first six months of the year, a 14 percent increase compared to the same period last year.

That’s saying a lot as last year’s result was already a record for the automaker, with a total 116,978 Porsches having been sold.

Furthermore, despite concerns of slowing economies around the globe, Porsche’s sales show no signs of going anywhere but up, with the automaker managing to sell 12,699 cars in the month of June alone, an increase of 18.9 percent on last year.

The figure of 14,338 Porsche 911s sold represents 27.9 percent growth for this particular model. And making the result all the more impressive, Porsche’s iconic 911 is still only offered in base Carrera trim for the latest 991 generation."

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...er-record-year
I'm dying to know how many base 991 were made. It seems like they spent the entire year making 991S

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Old 07-12-2012 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ChuckJ
I'm dying to know how many base 991 were made. It seems like they spent the entire year making 991S

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Think they meant C2 and S. Ironically my dealer is saying that the 991 is not exploding in orders like the 997 in 2005 when it was sold out for 2 years. I looked at him baffled and asked "how many did you deliver back then?" He shrugged then started telling me the Boxster is sold out for 6-8 months plus if I want a Cab S I have to wait for 4-5 months. I told him in 2005 there was no twitter and no Facebook so if Porsche actually thinks they can make me wait 2 years for a car they can "kiss it". I barely waited 6 months for the dang SUV - you kidding me!!!
 
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Old 07-12-2012 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fbroen
"Porsche delivered a total of 69,171 vehicles for the first six months of the year, a 14 percent increase compared to the same period last year.

That’s saying a lot as last year’s result was already a record for the automaker, with a total 116,978 Porsches having been sold.

Furthermore, despite concerns of slowing economies around the globe, Porsche’s sales show no signs of going anywhere but up, with the automaker managing to sell 12,699 cars in the month of June alone, an increase of 18.9 percent on last year.

The figure of 14,338 Porsche 911s sold represents 27.9 percent growth for this particular model. And making the result all the more impressive, Porsche’s iconic 911 is still only offered in base Carrera trim for the latest 991 generation."

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...er-record-year
These are global numbers............Porsche sold 29K in the US last year to put this into perspective BMW sold over a 1million cars.
 
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Old 07-13-2012 | 03:07 AM
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These are global numbers............Porsche sold 29K in the US last year to put this into perspective BMW sold over a 1million cars.
YMMV, but that's but one of the many reasons a Porsche is more valuable to me. BMW's are everywhere you look, where I live. Meh. And I've been a Bimmer fan for decades.
 
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Think they meant C2 and S. Ironically my dealer is saying that the 991 is not exploding in orders like the 997 in 2005 when it was sold out for 2 years. I looked at him baffled and asked "how many did you deliver back then?" He shrugged then started telling me the Boxster is sold out for 6-8 months plus if I want a Cab S I have to wait for 4-5 months. I told him in 2005 there was no twitter and no Facebook so if Porsche actually thinks they can make me wait 2 years for a car they can "kiss it". I barely waited 6 months for the dang SUV - you kidding me!!!
I remember back last summer when the 991 was first coming out, there were wild rumors going around that the 997 was the last 911. OMG a longer wheelbase, why don't they just make it 4 doors and call it the Panamera! Then they told everyone the price would be higher, putting it out of reach for some people. It was doomsday. I'm sure the person that was in charge of rolling out the electric steering, longer wheelbase and other technologies like start-stop is in serious trouble. The riot is that whatever they did to roll out the Boxster was different. It was okay for that to have the same things that the 991 was criticized for. People got their emotions up instead of using their logic- to the point that some people thought it would be better to have a car that would be beat around the track and not be as safe as long as they could have that "feel". Well, if they had brought out 997.3 it would have only satisfied those guys until it started getting beaten and when you spend more than a billion dollars to make a new car, you've got to have it last for a while. So I don't think they had a choice about making the technology upgrades to the 911, but the marketing guys where asleep. The good news is that they did make a fantastic car and that will come out over time.

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Originally Posted by ChuckJ
I remember back last summer when the 991 was first coming out, there were wild rumors going around that the 997 was the last 911. OMG a longer wheelbase, why don't they just make it 4 doors and call it the Panamera! Then they told everyone the price would be higher, putting it out of reach for some people. It was doomsday. I'm sure the person that was in charge of rolling out the electric steering, longer wheelbase and other technologies like start-stop is in serious trouble. The riot is that whatever they did to roll out the Boxster was different. It was okay for that to have the same things that the 991 was criticized for. People got their emotions up instead of using their logic- to the point that some people thought it would be better to have a car that would be beat around the track and not be as safe as long as they could have that "feel". Well, if they had brought out 997.3 it would have only satisfied those guys until it started getting beaten and when you spend more than a billion dollars to make a new car, you've got to have it last for a while. So I don't think they had a choice about making the technology upgrades to the 911, but the marketing guys where asleep. The good news is that they did make a fantastic car and that will come out over time.

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The 911 will always get more attention and scrutiny than the Boxster/Cayman because the 911 is the icon, Porsche's identity-defining car. When they mess with the Boxster, oh well, it's "just" the Boxster.
 
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The 911 will always get more attention and scrutiny than the Boxster/Cayman because the 911 is the icon, Porsche's identity-defining car. When they mess with the Boxster, oh well, it's "just" the Boxster.
Agreed but I still can't wait to order mine just need that C4S to come out sooner rather then later.
 
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Old 07-13-2012 | 09:07 AM
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Agreed but I still can't wait to order mine just need that C4S to come out sooner rather then later.
I'm waiting for the 991 GT3 with baited breath, but the price could turn out to be too high to swallow. Plus, I've gotten into tracking, and taking expensive cars on the track makes me a bit nervous.
 


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