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Old 09-18-2012 | 07:10 AM
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I have been a loyal fan and owner of BMW Products for he last 20 years. Mostly M products, and since the last Bangle Bungle...lol, I have been waiting for BMW to produce a simple fun car. The M5 and M6 Cab are close but are kinda heavy.

During my wait, I have started to see Porsche as a viable option. It will be fun learning about Porsche and their history form the Porsche Tiger, and the 356 to the Current 911. It should be fun.

I'm looking at a 911 Cab, for the wife and I, and am still unsure about the 911 4 Cab? It seems like the 911 4 would work out in light snow although I haven't found enough information to make an intelligent decision.

Anyway, Just wanted to introduce myself and am looking forward to metting many of you.
 
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Old 09-18-2012 | 09:36 AM
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Welcome!! I come from BMW too (M Cars). Just took delivery of my first Porsche, a 991 C2S. I can't comment on 4 wheel drive in the snow. I went with 2 wheel drive because I wanted a rear wheel drive sports car (what i feel is a true sports car) and won't drive my car in snow. Best of luck with your decision.
 
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Old 09-18-2012 | 10:00 AM
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Hi and welcome, both are great cars
 
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Old 09-18-2012 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by See U n Rear View
I have been a loyal fan and owner of BMW Products for he last 20 years. Mostly M products, and since the last Bangle Bungle...lol, I have been waiting for BMW to produce a simple fun car. The M5 and M6 Cab are close but are kinda heavy.

During my wait, I have started to see Porsche as a viable option. It will be fun learning about Porsche and their history form the Porsche Tiger, and the 356 to the Current 911. It should be fun.

I'm looking at a 911 Cab, for the wife and I, and am still unsure about the 911 4 Cab? It seems like the 911 4 would work out in light snow although I haven't found enough information to make an intelligent decision.

Anyway, Just wanted to introduce myself and am looking forward to metting many of you.
Previous car was a 997.2 C4S,....now awaiting a 991

The 4 is great and does very well in light/moderate snow,....but really, it's all about the tires. The sport "summer" tires that come on any 991 will be almost worthless in many snowy/icy conditions. Yes, they will get by in a pinch (won't leave you stranded) but the best scenario is to have a second set of wheels and snow tires available,....then a 4 will be almost unstoppable. You just have to watch out for ground clearance a bit,...it's not a truck.
 
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Old 09-18-2012 | 03:58 PM
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Welcome. I think you'll see many examples of BMW converters (or upgraders) to
Porsche, I'm being one too. Going from twin turbo rear wheel drive to NA awd 991 Porsche is really what I'm transitioning to, I needed a change
 
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Old 09-18-2012 | 04:51 PM
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Same story here - An M driver who switched back to Porsche after a decade.
Really can't compare the two, especially as some of the cars nowadays are so electronically heavy, not to mention the dearth of Manual Transmissions.
But BMW pumping prerecorded engine noises into the cabin of the new M5 is just pathetic..
 
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Old 09-18-2012 | 04:56 PM
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But BMW pumping prerecorded engine noises into the cabin of the new M5 is just pathetic..
Couldn't agree more plus fitting all new cars with turbo is kinda deal breaker for me...
 
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Old 09-18-2012 | 05:10 PM
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Welcome, I was a former e92 M3 full bolt ons, e46 M3, all I've had since I was 18 was M cars, been driving M cars for 14 years, 2 trips at M school, and it was fun, I wanted to trade my M for another car, and looked at other options, went to the Porsche dealer and test drove the 991 C2S and loved it, it just blew me away, I sold my M one week later and placed my order for a Platinum Silver 991 C2S, will be here by November-December, can't wait, it's just in another league, I love it
 
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Old 09-18-2012 | 07:37 PM
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Living in Texas I can't give you a lot of experience with driving in the snow, but I did grow up in the NE (CT) and I have driven a bunch in the snow there. I did, however have one long experience in the snow with a Porsche. It was the '63 normal that you see in the avatar. My wife and I drove it from Dallas to Arizona in a snow storm that was so bad, that they closed the roads behind us. This was in 1967 and there wasn't a whole lot of road clearing going on. The car drove well and never got stuck. At one point, there were no tracks in front of us and the bottom of the car was skimming over the snow. For much of the time, we didn't even know if we were on the road because if you don't know there's not a lot of vegetation west of Ft Worth. We did not have snow tires. Having the engine over the rear wheel helps.

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Welcome from another former BMW owner, not M's but a dinan 335is and an X5 4.8. None of those cars gave me the enjoyment I'm getting out of my 991 C2S cab. Good luck shopping
 
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Originally Posted by ChuckJ
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Living in Texas I can't give you a lot of experience with driving in the snow, but I did grow up in the NE (CT) and I have driven a bunch in the snow there. I did, however have one long experience in the snow with a Porsche. It was the '63 normal that you see in the avatar. My wife and I drove it from Dallas to Arizona in a snow storm that was so bad, that they closed the roads behind us. This was in 1967 and there wasn't a whole lot of road clearing going on. The car drove well and never got stuck. At one point, there were no tracks in front of us and the bottom of the car was skimming over the snow. For much of the time, we didn't even know if we were on the road because if you don't know there's not a lot of vegetation west of Ft Worth. We did not have snow tires. Having the engine over the rear wheel helps.

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Chuck, wow...it's an amazing story and shows your long affiliation with the brand. Thanks for sharing it. I have grown more respect for you now !!
 
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Chuck, wow...it's an amazing story and shows your long affiliation with the brand. Thanks for sharing it. I have grown more respect for you now !!
+1!!! You could probably start a thread with all the Porsche anecdotes you have accumulated since that time.

Back to the original thread: Welcome to the OP!!!
I am actually a 991 driver who loves the M cars (esp the M3) as well. Nowhere as refined as a Porsche, but still tons of fun IMHO!
 
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Chuck, wow...it's an amazing story and shows your long affiliation with the brand. Thanks for sharing it. I have grown more respect for you now !!
Yep, my respects for you too chuck


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BMW pumping prerecorded engine noises into the cabin of the new M5 is just pathetic..
Biggest fail of the decade!

 
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Old 09-19-2012 | 04:33 AM
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It is nice to meet you all. It seems that many of us are coming off the same boat...lol well, not counting ChuckJ. hehe Nice to meet you as well Sir, and a Nice 63 you have. I remembered that year because it was one year prior to my B-Day. You have kept her looking superb!

I have owned 2 E36 M3's, but the first one a 1995 Helrot Red M3 with OBD1 was by far the funnest. It was my first affinity for a car. It drove like it was on rails, and had the least under steer of all my other M's. It had 17's at the time, and BMW did not stagger the wheels. Nope, both wheels were the same size, and that helped zero out the under steer that most newer vehicles, Porsche excluded, have to keep their customers on the road surface...lol

The M5's a MY2001 and a MY2003 E39 Both had this insidious metallic ping when I blipped the gas pedal that was quite frankly embarrassing as well as annoying. The Dealers said it was the 91 California Gas. It may have well been but it was still annoying none the less.

Don't get me started about BMW and their Runflats, Bangle Bungle, or piping in sounds thru the Speakers!...

I like to leave my vehicles Stock, so I have to buy exactly what I want.

It is so easy to be with a Brand for a long time and get lulled into submission, but I'm happy that I broke from the womb, and am excited about the future with Porsche.

It really impresses me that Porsche continually improves and engineers a great platform like the 911, and with subtle variations making it better and better. Not changing the shape drastically because it will help sell cars, but to finesse its shape and character from listening to their clients, an intuitive response to the times.

Curious, as to why when i pick Bi Xenon lights, BYOP asks me to check off Leather interior?
 


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