Impressions after a year of living with the 3.4 911 7spd
#32
02-10-2013, 08:12 PM
[QUOTE=ChuckJ;3765625]You guys must be driving a different car than I am. 4.2 seconds to 60 seems pretty quick to me.
I would be surprised if the base car is that fast. Where may I ask did you get that time from? I have not seen any magazine or test review on a base car that substantiates that much performance.
My last 997.2 Coupe was to me much, much faster than my 991 base.
I would be surprised if the base car is that fast. Where may I ask did you get that time from? I have not seen any magazine or test review on a base car that substantiates that much performance.
My last 997.2 Coupe was to me much, much faster than my 991 base.
#33
02-10-2013, 08:33 PM
[quote=gjnockie;3765650]
2013 Porsche 911 Carrera 0-60 mph 4.3 Quarter Mile 12.7
http://www.zeroto60times.com/Porsche...mph-Times.html
You guys must be driving a different car than I am. 4.2 seconds to 60 seems pretty quick to me.
I would be surprised if the base car is that fast. Where may I ask did you get that time from? I have not seen any magazine or test review on a base car that substantiates that much performance.
My last 997.2 Coupe was to me much, much faster than my 991 base.
I would be surprised if the base car is that fast. Where may I ask did you get that time from? I have not seen any magazine or test review on a base car that substantiates that much performance.
My last 997.2 Coupe was to me much, much faster than my 991 base.
2013 Porsche 911 Carrera 0-60 mph 4.3 Quarter Mile 12.7
http://www.zeroto60times.com/Porsche...mph-Times.html
#34
02-10-2013, 11:39 PM
frank your source shows exactly what we are all griping about the car seems not as quick but faster (0-60 is 4.1 on a 2009 carrera 911 base mt) versus 4.3 may be its cuz the car is .2 liters smaller and bigger...
2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 0-60 mph 4.1 Quarter mile 12.7
2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 0-60 mph 4.1 Quarter mile 12.7
#35
02-10-2013, 11:41 PM
Thank you Mr. Aamersa, thats precisely what I was saying. Sorry for the lack of clarity gents. Clearly you aren't car people to understand the jargon.
Last edited by 20-C4-10; 02-16-2013 at 12:12 PM.
#36
02-11-2013, 04:50 AM
I have had my car base MT for six months and could not be more happy. I am surprised that there is so much discussion about torque. It's there, you just have to work it a little. However, I am surprised that there is little talk about the hokey shifts from 7th to 6th to 5th which sometimes puts you right into 3rd or the extra time it takes to make sure you are in 5th instead of third.
In fact, has this been a problem with anyone on a track?
In fact, has this been a problem with anyone on a track?
#37
02-11-2013, 10:34 AM
[quote=gjnockie;3765650]
That data came from AutoZine:
http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Pors...1_Carrera.html
But I'm not trying to quibble over a tenth or two.
ChuckJ
You guys must be driving a different car than I am. 4.2 seconds to 60 seems pretty quick to me.
I would be surprised if the base car is that fast. Where may I ask did you get that time from? I have not seen any magazine or test review on a base car that substantiates that much performance.
My last 997.2 Coupe was to me much, much faster than my 991 base.
I would be surprised if the base car is that fast. Where may I ask did you get that time from? I have not seen any magazine or test review on a base car that substantiates that much performance.
My last 997.2 Coupe was to me much, much faster than my 991 base.
http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Pors...1_Carrera.html
But I'm not trying to quibble over a tenth or two.
ChuckJ
#38
02-11-2013, 12:22 PM
I just wish the little display in the center of the track noted the gear selected BEFORE you let out the clutch, not after.
#39
02-11-2013, 12:52 PM
I have had my car base MT for six months and could not be more happy. I am surprised that there is so much discussion about torque. It's there, you just have to work it a little. However, I am surprised that there is little talk about the hokey shifts from 7th to 6th to 5th which sometimes puts you right into 3rd or the extra time it takes to make sure you are in 5th instead of third.
In fact, has this been a problem with anyone on a track?
In fact, has this been a problem with anyone on a track?
), and I can't rev it up yet (a ways to go to 2000 miles), but the torque seems good to me even in the lower RPMs - assuming that I can use distance to the cars behind me at a light as a measuring stick or the fact that I'm over the limit in no time even now without nearing max power.The shifts... Yeah, so I've managed to lock myself out of 7th by taking too long while 'making sure' I was going to 7th. I assume taking too long outside of 5th/6th locks 7th out again, even though I was just trying to make sure I was going to the right place.
But seemingly once I actually trust myself to be pushing the stick to the right gate, that will be fine, and there's certainly no danger of over-reving when dropping back to 5th or 6th even at highway speed.That said, I'd love it if the gear indicator showed the planned gear before you release the clutch. I assume the computer knows, so maybe show the number flashing first, then solid when you release? Not a big deal, but that would be my #1 wish on it. Otherwise I love the feel, and I've been re-training myself to think of it as just a normal 5 or 6 speed to put that 7th-way-over-there gear mostly out of mind. I guess that's what the lock-out is supposed do to for you anyway, right?
#41
02-11-2013, 03:16 PM
997.2 GTS feels better to me than the 991-S, I'am not bias because i own a 997.2 GTS ,but due to the fact that I was given the car for a whole day and returned it after 15 minute's. Yes, the gadgets were cool,the interior was on par, but far as the feel of the car- (steering/handeling/performance) there was no comparison. ( Still cant get used to the 2- lower- little red reflectors on the rear bumber.) Electric steering suck's. (Start Stop in a performance car-PLEASE!!! Who cares about fuel consumption in a car that most owner's dont even drive everyday. If you cant afford fuel then how can you afford a Porsche??
#42
02-11-2013, 04:15 PM
I traded by much loved 3.6 997 for the 991 last year. Immediately upon delivery I noticed the difference in the steering although since then I have gotten used to it. The interior is holding up well although the sport plus seats make an annoying leather on leather squeak that drives me nuts. It seems to be the back rest rubbing against the side bolsters. It's a beautiful car and I definitely prefer the looks over the 997 , however, for pure driving fun I think my 997 was a better choice. The main gripe I have with the 991 is the lack of torque. To get any decent forward momentum you really have to rev the engine which was not the case in the 997. I must remember to press the sport button at every start because absent that the car just feels sluggish. I dont know that I would go back in time and pony up another $14k for the S though if I could. If it were $7 or $8k perhaps. Bottom line is the car just does not feel alive in the way that the 997 does. It is a good daily driver and comfortable but it just does not stir the soul the way the 997 did. I will keep the car another year but after that all options are on the table., If Porsche does not fix the 991 then I will buy a brand other than Porsche or perhaps go back to the 997. Others may have a different opinion and experience but this is my honest accessment for what it's worth.
#44
02-11-2013, 05:53 PM
997.2 GTS feels better to me than the 991-S, I'am not bias because i own a 997.2 GTS ,but due to the fact that I was given the car for a whole day and returned it after 15 minute's. Yes, the gadgets were cool,the interior was on par, but far as the feel of the car- (steering/handeling/performance) there was no comparison. ( Still cant get used to the 2- lower- little red reflectors on the rear bumber.) Electric steering suck's. (Start Stop in a performance car-PLEASE!!! Who cares about fuel consumption in a car that most owner's dont even drive everyday. If you cant afford fuel then how can you afford a Porsche??
When I travel 500KM to a track event its nice not to have fill up the car a few times, rather spend the fuel money at the track then getting there.
I have a good amount of time in a 997.2...the interior is not on par with the 991, it feels cheap and sparse in comparison. The 997.2 is one of my favorite cars, but there were several areas where it could be improved, and it seems Porsche addressed most of them. Can't please everyone though.
Last edited by STALKER; 02-11-2013 at 05:57 PM.
#45
02-11-2013, 06:04 PM
Mine is a daily driver as well. Just because I own a Porsche does not mean I want to throw money away.