Engine stumble/hesitation around 2500 RPM?
#61
Thanks for your input. However, a friend of mine with a 997.1 C2 has the same problem.
I really hope a 991 owner with this problem will use the info I posted above and pressure his dealer for a resolution.
Cheers
#62
The problem is the lack of fault codes.
The dealership will not go on a fishing exercise, because in their world EVERYTHING has to throw a fault code. Without one there simply cannot be problem - no matter how apparent the problem is.
It would only be done by a independent / turner who has the ability to engage in deductive thinking.
The 997 folks suffer a similar fate, and were also told that it's "normal".
The dealership will not go on a fishing exercise, because in their world EVERYTHING has to throw a fault code. Without one there simply cannot be problem - no matter how apparent the problem is.
It would only be done by a independent / turner who has the ability to engage in deductive thinking.
The 997 folks suffer a similar fate, and were also told that it's "normal".
#63
I have noticed the same thing under light throttle, right around 2500-2800 rpm. It's very slight but noticeable. If I'm under hard accel it's not there. I think maybe you could be shifting the cam profiles.
#64
Gave this a try yesterday in my 2014 911S
No noticeable stall/delay between 2000rpm and 3000rpm, but truth be told, the car isn't exactly torquey below 3000rpm anyway.
Are we not confusing a gradual increase in power as the rev needle increases from 2000 to 2500 and 2800 and up? As I said, no delay, but the car certainly pulls less at 2000rpm than it does at 2800rpm.
No noticeable stall/delay between 2000rpm and 3000rpm, but truth be told, the car isn't exactly torquey below 3000rpm anyway.
Are we not confusing a gradual increase in power as the rev needle increases from 2000 to 2500 and 2800 and up? As I said, no delay, but the car certainly pulls less at 2000rpm than it does at 2800rpm.
#65
No - we're definitely not confused.
It's not a matter of pulling less. We are talking about a distinct shudder under gentle / moderate acceleration.
It feels like it's not getting petrol for a split second and then the power returns.
If you floor the gas pedal, you will not feel it.
Thankfully your car is most probably fine.
It's not a matter of pulling less. We are talking about a distinct shudder under gentle / moderate acceleration.
It feels like it's not getting petrol for a split second and then the power returns.
If you floor the gas pedal, you will not feel it.
Thankfully your car is most probably fine.
#66
No insult intended, perhaps using the word "confusing" was ill-chosen.
My model build date was sometime in June/early-July - whatever it is can only be something that Porsche are aware of and rectified or must be environmental - possibly fuel quality as some have mentioned.
Good luck, I'd be hounding my dealer if it was something I could demonstrate on my car but not on one of their demo cars.
It's not a matter of pulling less. We are talking about a distinct shudder under gentle / moderate acceleration.
It feels like it's not getting petrol for a split second and then the power returns.
If you floor the gas pedal, you will not feel it.
Thankfully your car is most probably fine.
It feels like it's not getting petrol for a split second and then the power returns.
If you floor the gas pedal, you will not feel it.
Thankfully your car is most probably fine.
Good luck, I'd be hounding my dealer if it was something I could demonstrate on my car but not on one of their demo cars.
#67
The Variocam bump on my 997.2 was so bad that at times it felt and sounded exactly like a significant mis-fire. And in fact, when it occurred in a tunnel you could hear it pop. The stumble on my 991 thankfully is nowhere near as bad, but still noticeable.
When considering the complexity of the system, it's not surprising to me that the cam profile changeover can be less than perfectly smooth. What is surprising however, is that the Variocam system has been in use since 2001 and apparently is still a work in progress.
When considering the complexity of the system, it's not surprising to me that the cam profile changeover can be less than perfectly smooth. What is surprising however, is that the Variocam system has been in use since 2001 and apparently is still a work in progress.
#69
Hey everyone. I was directed to this thread by mtony over on rennlist. I picked up my 2014 911 Carrera S MT 2 weeks ago and started noticing this problem. Basically If I am in 2nd gear at 2,000 rpm and get on the gas a little bit the car feels like it is going over small bumps. It basically feels like noticeable skips in smooth power delivery just as others on here have described. Originally I thought I had not broken in the car properly and was all worried. I am a little more relieved now knowing it's probably not something I caused.
#70
Hey everyone. I was directed to this thread by mtony over on rennlist. I picked up my 2014 911 Carrera S MT 2 weeks ago and started noticing this problem. Basically If I am in 2nd gear at 2,000 rpm and get on the gas a little bit the car feels like it is going over small bumps. It basically feels like noticeable skips in smooth power delivery just as others on here have described. Originally I thought I had not broken in the car properly and was all worried. I am a little more relieved now knowing it's probably not something I caused.
ChuckJ
#71
I've had the same issue on my 2012 S. A definite hesitation around 3200 RPM. I took it in to the dealer who also noticed the anomaly and upgraded the firmware to the newest version. It has remapped the PDK slightly but I'm still noticing the hesitation. I'll be taking it in again. I do remember the tech. talking about variable valve timing changes.
#72
Thanks again for your help!R
#73
So it is obviously something that can be fixed.
#75
I have a 2014 991 C2S ( 1,200 miles on her )and are having the exact same problems, i have taken it to the dealer, picked up the Shop Foreman and took him for a drive. He felt the issues and would look into it.. They ended updating the DME and reset all the values. It seems to have worked for 24 hours then started again... I'm beyond frustrated and are loosing my patience . It also stinks of oil when driven. Did you make any progress?
Thanks again for your help!R
Thanks again for your help!R