Rattles and Squeaks Getting me Down
#1
Rattles and Squeaks Getting me Down
I know in the grand scheme of things, interior rattles and squeaks are a pretty minor annoyance, but the number of rattles and squeaks that have developed in my car is pretty disturbing. I have had it in twice to fix the driver's side door and b-pillars, which worked for a couple of weeks, but now all three rattles are back to some degree.
The passenger side is now also rattling in the same way as the driver's door. I now also have a clicking or rattle sound from somewhere inside of the dash and the c-pillars, or somewhere towards the back on both sides of the car, are also rattling or squeaking. This is all in 65 degree weather.
My dealer tries to make it right, but I know it would be asking a lot to bring it in for them to fix all of these. While these issues are minor I know, they do detract from the driving enjoyment of the car and at this point, I would be willing to pay someone to go in and add some felt or whatever they use.
Does anyone have any ideas? Perhaps an auto sound person who is already familiar with removing interior panels, etc?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
The passenger side is now also rattling in the same way as the driver's door. I now also have a clicking or rattle sound from somewhere inside of the dash and the c-pillars, or somewhere towards the back on both sides of the car, are also rattling or squeaking. This is all in 65 degree weather.
My dealer tries to make it right, but I know it would be asking a lot to bring it in for them to fix all of these. While these issues are minor I know, they do detract from the driving enjoyment of the car and at this point, I would be willing to pay someone to go in and add some felt or whatever they use.
Does anyone have any ideas? Perhaps an auto sound person who is already familiar with removing interior panels, etc?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
#2
I had one squeak in the passenger a pillar, but it went away before I got a chance to take it in. Different dealers will have differing capabilities here. I would get feedback before taking it to one as they can make it worse if they are not capable.
ChuckJ
ChuckJ
#4
It is disappointing. On one hand, you dont want to keep dropping off the car and continue whining about rattles and noises that send the techs hunting for noise. After all, they didn't design it. At the same time, you paid a handsome amount for a new Porsche. You demand perfection from a manufacture who sells "precision". I still have a stupid squeak when my car starts (im in so cal so same weather). Im told it is a unique characteristic of my car due to the sound symposer. I call bullish!*. My car is on the recall list for the muffler so I plan on documenting, recording with video, my complaints and when it is in for the muffler thing I will ask they get it right.
#5
It is disappointing. On one hand, you dont want to keep dropping off the car and continue whining about rattles and noises that send the techs hunting for noise. After all, they didn't design it. At the same time, you paid a handsome amount for a new Porsche. You demand perfection from a manufacture who sells "precision". I still have a stupid squeak when my car starts (im in so cal so same weather). Im told it is a unique characteristic of my car due to the sound symposer. I call bullish!*. My car is on the recall list for the muffler so I plan on documenting, recording with video, my complaints and when it is in for the muffler thing I will ask they get it right.
Mine was 1/21/13 and arrived 10 days ago. So far through 375 miles, it's not made a squeak, rattle or any other unwanted sound. As tight and solid a car as I've ever driven.
#7
My 2013 C4S developed a squeek coming from the middle of the dash (somewhere under the Chrono) at about 400 miles on the odometer. It only happens when I'm going over 65 miles an hour, and driving over small bumps. It goes away when I drive over 30 minutes, so when I took it to the dealer, which is a 2-hour drive, they didn't hear the squeek. I'm going to take it back to the dealer so they can keep it over night and try driving it cold to see if they can hear what I'm hearing. I love the car but can't stand driving it any more because of the noise. It's like dating a gorgeous women with a terribly annoying laugh.
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#8
knock on wood.
#10
I have found the best way of dealing with the rattles and squeaks is to switch on the PSE and keep the revs high. Somehow that fixes the issue
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On a more serious note, I have fixed all the more annoying rattles myself. Sometimes I did not know how to gain access to something but I found the local Porsche shop quite helpful in telling me how to take things apart.
The last issue was a strange one - I had some occasional "tinkling" sound from the drivers seat, like you get from a loose washer or something like that. I found the culprit. A Canadian 25 cent piece in the seat rail mechanics. How that got there I don't know. There have not been any Canadians near my car and I'm on a whole different continent altogether. This one will remain a mystery. I'm taking this one as a small "discount".
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On a more serious note, I have fixed all the more annoying rattles myself. Sometimes I did not know how to gain access to something but I found the local Porsche shop quite helpful in telling me how to take things apart.
The last issue was a strange one - I had some occasional "tinkling" sound from the drivers seat, like you get from a loose washer or something like that. I found the culprit. A Canadian 25 cent piece in the seat rail mechanics. How that got there I don't know. There have not been any Canadians near my car and I'm on a whole different continent altogether. This one will remain a mystery. I'm taking this one as a small "discount".
#11
I've had lots of "first years" and this has to be the worst in the +$100k price bracket.
993, Mercedes AMG's, BMW M Series, Maserati's, none of which have had these amounts of rattles out of the gate.
The odd creak here and there is to be expected, but when you can't turn up the stereo because your entire door panel is rattling , or a sunroof is a no-no because of the incessant (known) rattles, it goes beyond "firsts".
It's not like all the cars in question were the first to roll of the production line. This goes to workmanship and quality control.
#12
Having removed pretty much every panel and crawled behind the dash to chase the annoying noises I SHOULD complain. I don't.
I sort of understand where this is comming from and why. Sure, nobody wants this on an expensive car - but this is a little different.
Weight. That is the culprit - or rather lack thereof. Virtually every rattle I fixed has its origin in very lightweight materials and assembly - the later is mostly to blame. Perhaps a little too lightweight. Too much clipping, too few screws. Surfaces rubbing against each other as they are not locked solidly together. Little loose bits of metal assembly that can simply be tacked into place with a dab of lithium grease - but aren't.
Lots of plastic behind the leather. It all moves and rubs as the very stiff chassis still flexes a little bit - just enough to annoy.
Yes, I think a few things could be assembled a bit better - a thin strip of felt here and there, a tighter clamp here and there, dab of grease, some electrical tape in strategic locations and things start to look up.
But somehow I'm happy. I understand the need to save weight. At least it kept me occupied for a few days and as a result I learned a bit on how things fit together. It's not a bad design. It just needs that extra 1% effort during assembly.
I sort of understand where this is comming from and why. Sure, nobody wants this on an expensive car - but this is a little different.
Weight. That is the culprit - or rather lack thereof. Virtually every rattle I fixed has its origin in very lightweight materials and assembly - the later is mostly to blame. Perhaps a little too lightweight. Too much clipping, too few screws. Surfaces rubbing against each other as they are not locked solidly together. Little loose bits of metal assembly that can simply be tacked into place with a dab of lithium grease - but aren't.
Lots of plastic behind the leather. It all moves and rubs as the very stiff chassis still flexes a little bit - just enough to annoy.
Yes, I think a few things could be assembled a bit better - a thin strip of felt here and there, a tighter clamp here and there, dab of grease, some electrical tape in strategic locations and things start to look up.
But somehow I'm happy. I understand the need to save weight. At least it kept me occupied for a few days and as a result I learned a bit on how things fit together. It's not a bad design. It just needs that extra 1% effort during assembly.
#13
Rainer - You just opened Pandora's box with your admission to having fixed all your rattles. You are now a sought after man!!
By 6speedonline rules, you're now required to post your step-by step DIY guide for us mere mortals to follow.![Big Grin](https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Having resorted to jamming my poor wife's head under the dash to find rattles at 60 mph (she fought like a banshee), this plea is on her behalf.
By 6speedonline rules, you're now required to post your step-by step DIY guide for us mere mortals to follow.
![Big Grin](https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Having resorted to jamming my poor wife's head under the dash to find rattles at 60 mph (she fought like a banshee), this plea is on her behalf.
#15
My 1/13 build has a major buzz coming from the bottom of the door panel. I know I could just stuff something in between the panel and the door, but I'd rather take the panel off and add some felt tape in a few places. Does anyone know how to take the door panel off? Thanks!