Road and Track "apologizes to the world" over PDK
#91
I'm on dura ace di2 since 2 yrs ago. It's very durable, survived 2 crashes and work perfectly well.
#92
I'd suggest to the driver: If you're bored, you're not going fast enough.
I'd suggest to R&T: If you don't like it, don't buy it. Sales will either plummet, and a manufacturer will have to find other (perhaps older) ways to make money. Or sales will go up, and dinosaurs will become extinct (with fossilized remains becoming collector's editions).
I'd suggest to R&T: If you don't like it, don't buy it. Sales will either plummet, and a manufacturer will have to find other (perhaps older) ways to make money. Or sales will go up, and dinosaurs will become extinct (with fossilized remains becoming collector's editions).
Buy whatever you want. I'd at least like to have the option to have a manual transmission. Porsche was one of the last hold-outs to offer this to drivers like me who like a high level of involvement. The manual transmission in sports cars may be a thing of the past, and I lament the hell out of it.
In fact, not only is the lack of a manual option bothersome, it's also symbolic of where driver involvement is going on the whole. How long until we are no longer allowed to disable stability control? Remember old Audis with the ABS-off button? That went away pretty quickly. Hydraulic power steering is gone in Porsches (and the road feel didn't go unnoticed - Porsche spent years trying to tune the electric power steering on the GT3 feel like a 911, and it still doesn't - by most reports). Hell, even the throttle linkage is gone, replaced by drive-by-wire, which (by any measure) lacks the same throttle response as an analog throttle. Nearly every input will soon be a request to a computer rather than a direct control. While this may be fine in an appliance car, it saddens me to see this happen to cars that I am passonate about.
I wonder how long I can keep my old air-cooled 911 on the road? Given that cars are only getting faster and not necessarily more challenging or interesting to drive, the prospect of "forever" is starting to sound pretty sweet.
#93
A different perspective: why is Road & Track apologizing? Do they really think their embracing of dual clutch transmissions a few years back influenced an entire industry. Is this the height of arrogance?
#94
I think it is more like the height of "PLEASE NOTICE THIS MAGAZINE WHICH HAS BEEN LOOSING CIRCULATION". I imagine that if that continues, they will start apologizing to the world that Porsche was still selling manual transmissions in cars designed for highest performance.
Last edited by chuckbdc; 05-05-2013 at 02:29 PM.
#95
Motor Trend just expressed similar thoughts on the demise of the manual transmission. The last sentence was quite telling.
A Viper was on the cover and with a manual transmission, had quicker times than a Nissan GTR or McLaren MP412C. Pretty cool.
I don't have much interest in the next turbo or GT3 because of the lack of a manual transmission (this is from someone who has bought 10 turbo's/GT3/GT2 in the last 15 years) so I may get a Viper or Stingray for a change. I know the next M4 will come in a manual too, so plenty of choices. My 458 is a Formula One racing fantasy, so DCT is ok, but Porsche for me is a daily driving real-life sports car, so manual is vital for my tastes.
Bottom line, we will all buy what we want in the end.
A Viper was on the cover and with a manual transmission, had quicker times than a Nissan GTR or McLaren MP412C. Pretty cool.
I don't have much interest in the next turbo or GT3 because of the lack of a manual transmission (this is from someone who has bought 10 turbo's/GT3/GT2 in the last 15 years) so I may get a Viper or Stingray for a change. I know the next M4 will come in a manual too, so plenty of choices. My 458 is a Formula One racing fantasy, so DCT is ok, but Porsche for me is a daily driving real-life sports car, so manual is vital for my tastes.
Bottom line, we will all buy what we want in the end.
#96
If someone wanted to go as fast as possible for a given budget, they would never buy a 911 to begin with.
#97
That is why their slower cars still have a manual available IMO.
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