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Old 06-19-2013 | 06:18 PM
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Not misinformed at all, speaking as a former customer and as a friend of couple owners of current vehicles. A full clear bra install was done on my 997turbo at $4500 around five years ago, and yes you are at the $10k mark for a full clear bra install now, sure maybe its different when your doing a full install on a sub $30k vehicle versus $150k, $300k+ vehicles.

Here is a an email where I was recently quoted $3k for clear bra install on the front end of a $100k vehicle, when you done the same type of work on two other $50k+/- Lexus vehicles for me for $1200 just 3 years ago.

So I have to ask is your pricing dynamic based on the cost of the vehicle?

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Originally Posted by Premier Films
Sorry, but you are misinformed. We have always been higher than "$5k" even 5 years ago. And well under $10k even for current...
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TestJet
Not misinformed at all, speaking as a former customer and as a friend of couple owners of current vehicles. A full clear bra install was done on my 997turbo at $4500 around five years ago, and yes you are at the $10k mark for a full clear bra install now, sure maybe its different when your doing a full install on a sub $30k vehicle versus $150k, $300k+ vehicles.

Here is a an email where I was recently quoted $3k for clear bra install on the front end of a $100k vehicle, when you done the same type of work on two other $50k+/- Lexus vehicles for me for $1200 just 3 years ago.

So I have to ask is your pricing dynamic based on the cost of the vehicle?

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Sorry, but you are basing this from assumption Mike Clark. Where is there an indication of $10k? A $1200 kit would be just a partial front end while an entire front end via custom would cost significantly more, so when we did the work on your Lexus, you opted to only go with a partial precut package for budgetary reasons. We just want to make sure that all the details are properly accounted for.

First, when we did your RX, the bill was $1300 and it consisted of just a very basic partial hood, partial fenders and bumper.

2nd, our custom full front end packages run anywhere from $2500-$2700 as many of our customers certainly are aware of. This consists of all panels fully wrapped, which means we are not utilizing any kits. There are ancillary areas if customers choose to cover rocker panels, wheel arches, a-pillars that will drive the cost of the installations up.

Again, you are comparing apples to oranges in what you just provided. A small partial package vs. a full panel custom app. So to answer your question and to correct your point, the variance you see is based on coverage you are requesting and not based on vehicle.
 
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You are backing up everything I said which is why I gave my name so you can look it up.

You are failing to answer the question:
So I have to ask is your pricing dynamic based on the cost of the vehicle?

I also hear you where competitively impacted with your LA location and subsequently shutdown?

You can have the last word as I am done with you aka premier.

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Old 06-19-2013 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TestJet
You are backing up everything I said which is why I gave my name so you can look it up.

You are failing to answer the question:
So I have to ask is your pricing dynamic based on the cost of the vehicle?

I also hear you where competitively impacted with your LA location and subsequently shutdown?

You can have the last word as I am done with you aka premier.

As for everyone else you can PM me for an AAA+ reasonably priced alternative to premier.
Mike, you know quite well that you are providing misinformation. We all know you extremely well here @ Premier. Again, the pricing for a full front end, which means full hood, full fenders, mirrors, front bumper, lights will put this into the high 2k. If you opted to do the partial kit for budgetary reasons, it is available to you at the same price of $1300. I am sorry if I may have upset you for providing details to show that you had supplied misinformation.

Again, a partial precut pkg is designed for minimum coverage and that is what you chose for your RX350. However, you requested for full frontal coverage on the Tesla. So it's apples to oranges in this comparison. The pricing would be the same if you opted for the kit, but you decided not to do either because of budget....but instead to come onto a public forum and rant. So no, we do not price according to the value of the vehicle.
 
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Apologies to the original poster for having side-tracked this thread. Below are some threads to show what to watch out for in searching for paint protection film installations. There are many new installers on the market and in this industry it is an extreme craft due to contours and curvatures. It takes 4-5 years to just get decent at applying basic partial kits....and twice that amount of time to become proficient in custom work. So it's quite important to seek out a quality installer. Pricing will be dependent on two factors - your location and coverage you choose.

They key areas for paint protection will naturally be the front end and the 4 wheel arches behind the tires (these areas will show significant wear in just several thousand miles). Also do not forget the headlamps as they are very expensive to replace.

Here are just a few examples on a quick search:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...kes-again.html

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...preciated.html

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ll-decade.html
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 07:55 PM
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Premier's done some great work for my last 4 cars and they've all exceeded my expectations In my latest purchase of a v10 R8, I allowed Rector Audi to have their vendor put the clear film on. Yeh yeh I know. I didnt turn it down because the GM threw it in for free. But fock, it was one of my biggest mistake in my car buying history. There were bubbles, permanent streaks, and all sorts of weird shiet going on with it. Long story short I had Premier pull all that crap off and redid it for me. BUT we found out that the Rectors guy cut up my paint so off it went to get anew paint job on my brand new 160,000 car. Ggggrrrr. Hindsight it wasnt even worth it at the cost of $0. Ill stick with Premier thank you.
 
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anybody have insight into the price breakdown? how much is the cost of the actual materials vs labor?
 
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Originally Posted by onapex
anybody have insight into the price breakdown? how much is the cost of the actual materials vs labor?
Just look on ebay, the actual material cost is pretty insignificant compared to the install cost.

There's nothing wrong with charging what the market will bear. I for one am glad that there's some discussion of pricing online (which for some reason seems to be taboo).

In the end it all comes down to how much the market will bear, in combination with how much perfection you are looking for. Who's to say that our 100k+ cars are 5x better than the average Toyota Corolla, or that a Veyron is 10x better than our 991s. Are you okay with some seams and/or edges, or do you want full disassembly and a complete wrap? At the end of the day we pay for quality (perceived or actual).

As for me, no way I'd pay 5k for a full wrap, not to mention the 10k that Premier allegedly wants. For that price, why save the perfect finish for the next owner?

I do love full wraps though. Stress-free washings + car use = great for the OCD mind.
 
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Originally Posted by gtKnight
Premier's done some great work for my last 4 cars and they've all exceeded my expectations In my latest purchase of a v10 R8, I allowed Rector Audi to have their vendor put the clear film on. Yeh yeh I know. I didnt turn it down because the GM threw it in for free. But fock, it was one of my biggest mistake in my car buying history. There were bubbles, permanent streaks, and all sorts of weird shiet going on with it. Long story short I had Premier pull all that crap off and redid it for me. BUT we found out that the Rectors guy cut up my paint so off it went to get anew paint job on my brand new 160,000 car. Ggggrrrr. Hindsight it wasnt even worth it at the cost of $0. Ill stick with Premier thank you.
Ugh! What a horrible story.
 
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Thanks again everyone. Interesting discussion and I now have a better understanding of wraps. That's why I love this form.
 
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Originally Posted by barihunk

As for me, no way I'd pay 5k for a full wrap, not to mention the 10k that Premier allegedly wants. For that price, why save the perfect finish for the next owner?
Why? Because you can completely change the color of your car with a full wrap. Tired of your black car and want to go matte white, wrap it. A year later, remove the wrap and your black is as fresh as it was a year ago and a "new" car to you again. Makes it hard to get bored with a car. I still believe it can be done for under $4K in Miami by very experienced wrappers.
 
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Old 06-20-2013 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PorscheCrazy
Ugh! What a horrible story.
yeh tell me about it. Rector wanted to pay for the repaint, but only through their authorized bodyshop. Fock no, I said. I paid out of pocket to get it fixed through my own paint guy. 2 weeks later and $1000 for the paint job, I was whole again.

i just reread the thread and realized that Premier put up pics of my R8 in their response above. Yep, that was my car. I did get the whole car done and to confirm it didn't cost me $10,000 hahaha, but I can see why Premier would for testjet. Lol
 
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My Porsche dealer charges $2395 for a full front clear bra (entire hood, full fenders, and headlights).
The owner of a very prominent wheel vendor referred me to a specialist in Miami who does the full front for $800 - $1200. In fact, he is now having the same company fully wrap his car in matte white. The Miami guy charges between $3K & $4K, just as I've maintained all along.

California is and always has been in a class of its own. If it makes you CA Porsche owners feel better to spend more money than we Floridians pay, it's your money and you can spend it as you see fit.
 
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Originally Posted by SanibelSpeed
My Porsche dealer charges $2395 for a full front clear bra (entire hood, full fenders, and headlights).
The owner of a very prominent wheel vendor referred me to a specialist in Miami who does the full front for $800 - $1200. In fact, he is now having the same company fully wrap his car in matte white. The Miami guy charges between $3K & $4K, just as I've maintained all along.

California is and always has been in a class of its own. If it makes you CA Porsche owners feel better to spend more money than we Floridians pay, it's your money and you can spend it as you see fit.
There is always a perceived difference in value and quality. In my 20+ years in the claims industry, I have seen really poor quality body work yet over half the time the policy holders do not see the vast imperfections I see. And on the flipside, I've also seen exceptional quality paint work and still wasn't good enough for some.

Californians vs. Floridians is quite a generalized statement. I can't say for others, but I have a feeling I'm not the only one here to qualify this, you really do get what you pay for. I'm in the camp of quality over pricing and believe me I've seen what some of the other shops do for clear film. We at Allstate use scores of companies throughout California and from what I've dealt with since the clear armor's been around, I wouldn't want any of the cheaper clear film shops go near my own cars. In my assessment, likely over 1/3 of the claims that involve clear film have the policy holders come back with a complaint of sorts.

I am OCD though (verified by my wife of 30 years), so my perceptual sense of quality may be far to the left. Perhaps, if my fastidious personality subsides, I would go with cheaper alternatives for clear film. Until that day comes, I will choose quality to calm my OCD tendencies. Premier's gets my personal 2 thumbs up.
 
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I must say, I envy some people on this thread. Must be super rich to not care about a few thousand dollars.....
 


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