Sorry. I don't know where the idea comes from about Porsche dealers or factory reps discouraging tracking. There was PCA literature and sign up materials mixed into the package that I got with my car, and PCA features a Driver Ed program. Dealers host tech inspection sessions before events. PCNA markets the cars at track experience events. 991s mix with older ones at my local (Potomac Region) track events, driven by new and old timers alike.

I think Porsche had problems with, and so discouraged, running on slicks and trick tires in 987 and 997 models due to problems of oil starvation under high G conditions - which aggravated other oiling issues with water cooled engines without dry sumps. But every generation of 911s had issues that took time to sort out.

I have stopped tracking (being too old to do all the maintenance, too cheap to pay someone, and definitely too old to compete at the level I was used to). So I don't know just what 991 tracking issues are other that what I read here in postings - all of which sound about right (maintenance and normal expendables) from my experience. The disclaimers in owners manuals have been there since time immemorial.

All that said, Porsche makes the GT3 as its optimal street/track car with heavy duty parts for the purpose; and it and other street 991s are not race cars despite the marketing. They are meant to be driven to and from events. If treated like race cars should be, they will need the same sort of maintenance despite being slower and less safe.

 

Took a few hours to get back here, just got back from a drive. Are you all still here ? Get out and drive your cars for crying out loud..

 

Hahaha
It's friday evening 11:45 pm here in Switzerland and I'm enjoying a nice drink in front of the TV, with my iPad on my lap, looking for some nice threads here on 6speed about interiordesign...... So I'm not allowed to drive anymore

 

One way they clearly discourage tracking your car is to tell you that the warranty doesn't cover damage done from track use.

 

For those that had questions on the warranty limitations, here are the statements from the manual on items that are not covered

Abuse, accident, acts of God, competition, racing, track use, or other
events.
Note 1: Components and/or parts that fail during racing or driving events (including Porsche sponsored events) may not be covered by the new car Limited Warranty.

I also understand that many other manufacturers have similar limitations with Nissan being the worst of them. They were voiding warranties on the GTR for using the launch control function in the first year.

Compare that to Chevrolet which specifically states that all items are covered while tracking any of their vehicles. What I find particularly surprising about the Porsche limitations is that they ACTIVELY market a motorsports image. Take for example them driving a bone stock GT3RS to the 24 Hours of Nurburghring, racing it to a class win and then driving it back to the factory. This is a huge accomplishment and very impressive, but they could (and have the past) voided warranties based on track use. I find this a bit disingenuous on their part especially on the RS vehicles and even more so compared the Chevrolet warranty.

Please don't take this as me being a huge Corvette guy since I have never owned one, but it definitely piques my interest understanding how GM views the strength of their vehicles.

 

Times have certainly changed from the days of, "Race on Sunday, drive on Monday".

 

Lol - isn't that a good ole boys slogan associated with NASCAR?

For a wanna be redneck like me (that enjoys watching tubby cars drive in circles for 4 hours), porsche hasn't been that relevant in the racing world for a long time.

 

Except when there was problem with the oil circulation... Then no.

(see: Z06 on track for reference)

Everybody seems to have limitations. But yeah, Porsche can be a little misleading. At least with that first year of the GT-R (first few months, actually), there was a brief that the dealer had to have told the buyer exactly what was expected.

 

Lol...perfect response. I think this is a natural evolution of the forum representing the evolution of the "new" luxury sports car buyer to the 21st century. Using myself as an example, this is my first Porsche. I had never been on the track before the one time I took my S5 on Audi day, and my one day precision course at Barber. I absolutely love tracking the 991.... But I have yet to track mine. Most buyers will not track their car and therefore will not make any technical mods. However, this is the most customizable car I have ever ordered. It is almost overwhelming how many different ways to configure your build. This forum is extremely helpful in clarifying these options and allowing us to see what they would look like(egdeviated stitching).

As I was placing my order, Serge's thread with his first 991 was eye-opening for me as to how much you could do to these cars. And his were mostly technical performance mods. I also think that more people are aware and participate in this forum. To Suzy's point, communication now with smartphones and iPads allows us to stay connected and therefore you are more likely to get more posts/threads of less profound topics( sorry, tried to be careful here!).

I, for one, have enjoyed all threads, both technical and aesthetic.

 

Welcome to the Porsche world. It as always been thus. A minority of owners track their cars, and the vast majority never raced their cars, let alone a race car, in competition. That has nothing to do with enthusiasm, enjoyment or fashion.

 

The Porsche driving school is great because it demonstrates just how good the car performs. The disincentive is, if you do this with your car, don't expect us (Porsche) to honor your warranty.