2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray vs. 2013 Porsche 911 Carrera S
#61
I'm not. Looked like the dude increased the distance between the vehicle and cones. On purpose? I don't know. I'm pretty sure, however, the 991 had PDCC. Could tell by the lack of body roll & flex. Was not please to see all that nose dive on the C7 under heavy braking. Just another reason why I would not buy a C7. Continue to have concerns about how vetes perform in wet weather. Noticed they didn't want to show any skidpad footage. We all know how modern vettes are not set up right for rain.
It's all good though. If you're cash poor and can't afford a 911, buy a vette and hate on 911 drivers. Same old same old. Yawn.
It's all good though. If you're cash poor and can't afford a 911, buy a vette and hate on 911 drivers. Same old same old. Yawn.
Last edited by VikingMariner; 09-15-2013 at 08:00 AM.
#62
I'm not. Looked like the dude increased the distance between the vehicle and cones. On purpose? I don't know. I'm pretty sure, however, the 991 had PDCC. Could tell by the lack of body roll & flex. Was not please to see all that nose dive on the C7 under heavy braking. Just another reason why I would not buy a C7. Continue to have concerns about how vetes perform in wet weather. Noticed they didn't want to show any skidpad footage. We all know how modern vettes are not set up right for rain.
It's all good though. If you're cash poor and can't afford a 911, buy a vette and hate on 911 drivers. Same old same old. Yawn.
It's all good though. If you're cash poor and can't afford a 911, buy a vette and hate on 911 drivers. Same old same old. Yawn.
#64
[QUOTE It's all good though. If you're cash poor and can't afford a 911, buy a vette and hate on 911 drivers. Same old same old. Yawn.[/QUOTE]
Hilarious...and so far reality. The C7 beat up on the new Viper GTS in a similar heads up competition, I'm sure the Viper lovers are saying the same thing as the 911 guys...reality is Chevy came out with a world beater for $60k. Go hop in your 991 CS and if you got the base car...take a look at your Instrument panel and door upper panels...they are good old foam and skin vinyl, ironically the exact materials that the C6 got ripped on for being "cheap" and "plasticky". Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder..but when you pay $110k for a car and get half the quality of interior components and less performance, all you have left to do is rationalize why you made your choice in cars. And to the comment of if you cannot afford a 911 go buy a vette...why are so many of Porsches leased vs. bought outright with cash? Hmmm, cause most cannot afford them. This coming from a guy with a 911 in the garage & multiple vettes...haters gonna hate, at least pick on something worthwhile like the ugly tail lights...I'll give you that much.
Hilarious...and so far reality. The C7 beat up on the new Viper GTS in a similar heads up competition, I'm sure the Viper lovers are saying the same thing as the 911 guys...reality is Chevy came out with a world beater for $60k. Go hop in your 991 CS and if you got the base car...take a look at your Instrument panel and door upper panels...they are good old foam and skin vinyl, ironically the exact materials that the C6 got ripped on for being "cheap" and "plasticky". Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder..but when you pay $110k for a car and get half the quality of interior components and less performance, all you have left to do is rationalize why you made your choice in cars. And to the comment of if you cannot afford a 911 go buy a vette...why are so many of Porsches leased vs. bought outright with cash? Hmmm, cause most cannot afford them. This coming from a guy with a 911 in the garage & multiple vettes...haters gonna hate, at least pick on something worthwhile like the ugly tail lights...I'll give you that much.
#65
Hilarious...and so far reality. The C7 beat up on the new Viper GTS in a similar heads up competition, I'm sure the Viper lovers are saying the same thing as the 911 guys...reality is Chevy came out with a world beater for $60k. ....... This coming from a guy with a 911 in the garage & multiple vettes...haters gonna hate, at least pick on something worthwhile like the ugly tail lights...I'll give you that much.[/QUOTE]
I like the Vette tail lights.
#66
I'm not sold on the tail lights yet...I wish they would have been a little less aggressive there, but that being said there will be a C7 Z06 being added to the collection...hard to believe since "Corvette owners can't afford a 911".
Hey Viking...how much is that LEASE payment?
Hey Viking...how much is that LEASE payment?
#69
Hilarious...and so far reality. The C7 beat up on the new Viper GTS in a similar heads up competition, I'm sure the Viper lovers are saying the same thing as the 911 guys...reality is Chevy came out with a world beater for $60k. Go hop in your 991 CS and if you got the base car...take a look at your Instrument panel and door upper panels...they are good old foam and skin vinyl, ironically the exact materials that the C6 got ripped on for being "cheap" and "plasticky". Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder..but when you pay $110k for a car and get half the quality of interior components and less performance, all you have left to do is rationalize why you made your choice in cars. And to the comment of if you cannot afford a 911 go buy a vette...why are so many of Porsches leased vs. bought outright with cash? Hmmm, cause most cannot afford them. This coming from a guy with a 911 in the garage & multiple vettes...haters gonna hate, at least pick on something worthwhile like the ugly tail lights...I'll give you that much.[/QUOTE]
OK now hold the phone chief. You are in Michigan. Noted. I have a 991 CS and IMO my black 997.1 had a better interior by a factor of 3x than the C6 Corvette. Let's face it, GM needed a vast rework on the C7 interior and while they did a good job, I'll wait till I see it in person to make final positive judgment. I've been fooled by Chevys in the past - so I will remain skeptical until in person viewpoints.
#70
You just must not be a car guy...that's ok, you've got nice transportation. Car guys don't make jackwagon comments like yours. Enjoy your nap, it is a good day for it here as well.
#71
Not sure I follow this question. Are you referring to Porsches or other expensive sports cars, because the data I've seen reveals that it, in fact, does not outrun a Carrera.
#72
OK now hold the phone chief. You are in Michigan. Noted. I have a 991 CS and IMO my black 997.1 had a better interior by a factor of 3x than the C6 Corvette. Let's face it, GM needed a vast rework on the C7 interior and while they did a good job, I'll wait till I see it in person to make final positive judgment. I've been fooled by Chevys in the past - so I will remain skeptical until in person viewpoints.[/QUOTE]
I understand your skepticism completely. My 997.2 TTS is light years (10X) ahead of my C6Z. First off, I know what I speak of because auto interiors is my business...but I considered trading in the TTS for a 991C4S, I went to the dealer, sat in the car...it is DAMN nice first off, but the actual materials used are the SAME as C6 interior. It is a process called foam and skin casting. Hell, an Audi A6 Doors and IP are the same, so don't get me wrong, it isn't terrible...but what cracks me up is that the Magazines rip on the "cheap" materials of the C6, but in a 991 not a mention of "cheap" plastic. It is 100% the same materials used. Now the difference could and is in the execution of the use of the materials. Porsche did a better job without a doubt even on the base car. Trust me when I say this...go sit in the new up level C7 and feel the real leather wrapped parts (by the same company that does Porsche, Audi, Bugatti, Ferrari, Mercedes) and tell me that it is not better than a base 991 at $30k less. I love all these cars, but there is a Halo effect that expensive cars get the benefit of the doubt on that others do not. People make assumptions without knowing the reality or doing their due diligence. They are both amazing cars...the C7 is a hell of a value, but if you could have a totally loaded 991C4S you'd still choose that in a heartbeat if money were not a consideration.
I understand your skepticism completely. My 997.2 TTS is light years (10X) ahead of my C6Z. First off, I know what I speak of because auto interiors is my business...but I considered trading in the TTS for a 991C4S, I went to the dealer, sat in the car...it is DAMN nice first off, but the actual materials used are the SAME as C6 interior. It is a process called foam and skin casting. Hell, an Audi A6 Doors and IP are the same, so don't get me wrong, it isn't terrible...but what cracks me up is that the Magazines rip on the "cheap" materials of the C6, but in a 991 not a mention of "cheap" plastic. It is 100% the same materials used. Now the difference could and is in the execution of the use of the materials. Porsche did a better job without a doubt even on the base car. Trust me when I say this...go sit in the new up level C7 and feel the real leather wrapped parts (by the same company that does Porsche, Audi, Bugatti, Ferrari, Mercedes) and tell me that it is not better than a base 991 at $30k less. I love all these cars, but there is a Halo effect that expensive cars get the benefit of the doubt on that others do not. People make assumptions without knowing the reality or doing their due diligence. They are both amazing cars...the C7 is a hell of a value, but if you could have a totally loaded 991C4S you'd still choose that in a heartbeat if money were not a consideration.
#73
You see, the first new car I ever purchased, at the tender age of 24, was a Chevy. I traded in my VW Quantum GL5 (5-cylinder) sedan 5-speed. I regret that decision to this day. After I learned my Chevy lesson 15 months later, I went back to German cars, never to return to GM.
#74
OK now hold the phone chief. You are in Michigan. Noted. I have a 991 CS and IMO my black 997.1 had a better interior by a factor of 3x than the C6 Corvette. Let's face it, GM needed a vast rework on the C7 interior and while they did a good job, I'll wait till I see it in person to make final positive judgment. I've been fooled by Chevys in the past - so I will remain skeptical until in person viewpoints.
Your last sentence is well put and pretty much sums up all reviews. The Vette is a great value but if you have the cash you should choose the loaded 991.
#75
OK now hold the phone chief. You are in Michigan. Noted. I have a 991 CS and IMO my black 997.1 had a better interior by a factor of 3x than the C6 Corvette. Let's face it, GM needed a vast rework on the C7 interior and while they did a good job, I'll wait till I see it in person to make final positive judgment. I've been fooled by Chevys in the past - so I will remain skeptical until in person viewpoints.
Interesting stuff. I'll have to take a look. I totally believe that many of the parts are outsourced from the same vendors for materials and such. Actually I had a 2004 Cayenne S with the turbo-look interior, and I loved the dash because I believe it was full leather, not the textured stuff. I guess everyone likes different things. It could also be just the shape of the dash and contours that people like, whether it be Corvette or 911.