In working on cars for 40+ years, I've never seen a brake oriented failure due to moisture in the line on a car that is less than 15 years old. I've seen failures due to a lot of other things but never because of corrosion due to moisture..

Agree, bleeding is necessary at times but that's air not moisture which is not compressible and isn't going to change brake performance for a normally used car.. Sure if I'm racing the car I would suggest otherwise as that is a much more extreme environment than normal DD street driving..

My observation is that as cars have become significantly more reliable in the last 20 years.. it seems that maintenance schedules have increasingly added more and more inspections and "flush" items.. Hmmm.. gotta have something for the dealers to make service money on.. and of course it is always in the name of safety.. so who will argue?

So spend the money on it... for the next guy who gets your car when its 15 years old.. If you are hard over on getting it done, then learn to do it yourself and save a lot of money on not only this but most of the other trivial maintenance tasks...

 

+1 yeah but for $150 i did it and my estate will not have to face a failure to maintain defense in its product liability lawsuit if the brakes fail.

 

Yeah I hear what you are saying.... And I can't argue with that....

But there are just sooo many other things driving related that are going to get me first.. this isn't even on my list.. lol..

I'm more worried about being a lawn dart in my Cessna 172

 

Coming to think of it, you're right the offer I got for my Boxster S was terrible and I ended up selling it privately. Haha silly delusional me. Oh well. I will start the search for something in the Bay Area.

 

Wrong, wrong, wrong. You have heard of the ABS system? That's a very expensive pump to replace when it goes bad. Calipers rust, seals go bad, and of course, the lines rust from the inside out, so you can't see it until it's too late. My neighbor's car brake lines rusted out after just 15 years, and this was a southern car - no salt on our roads.

It's stupid - sorry, yes, but it is just stupid to spend well over $100K on a car and then try to save a few hundred dollars by not performing maintenance that the manufacturer suggests that you do.

Heck, why bother changing the oil? Your engine will go for 30, 40 maybe even 50,000 miles before anything bad happens to it. Most 911 owners sell their car long before they get that kind of mileage on it. Why do all of that unnecessary maintenance just to benefit the next guy?

 

^exactly...


Dave in Dallas

 

Wrong, wrong, wrong. You have heard of the ABS system? That's a very expensive pump to replace when it goes bad. Calipers rust, seals go bad, and of course, the lines rust from the inside out, so you can't see it until it's too late. My neighbor's car brake lines rusted out after just 15 years, and this was a southern car - no salt on our roads.

It's stupid - sorry, yes, but it is just stupid to spend well over $100K on a car and then try to save a few hundred dollars by not performing maintenance that the manufacturer suggests that you do.

Heck, why bother changing the oil? Your engine will go for 30, 40 maybe even 50,000 miles before anything bad happens to it. Most 911 owners sell their car long before they get that kind of mileage on it. Why do all of that unnecessary maintenance just to benefit the next guy?

1+ I could not have said it better.

 

Have you ever even worked on a brake system yourself? I've never seen an abs related component fail because of moisture in the system.. And calipers don't rust because of moisture in the brake fluid, pistons maybe...

Note I never said not inspect and maintain, just flushing the brake fluid every 2 years was a waste and overkill..

Lol after just 15 years your neighbors rusted out.. Like I said, you go ahead and spend the money to help out the next owner. And I said nothing about oil so that is a STUPiD exaggeration..

 

I Do my own oil/filter change for under $100 and $25 more for a cabin filter.....Done

 

Glad there are lots of folks who keep the dealers profit margins up..

 

If you are tracking the car you should absolutely get the brake fluid changed on the recommended schedule, at a minimum.

Unfortunately, I've seen what can happen with old brake fluid (3 years old) on track... pedal to the floor. It wasn't pretty and was a very costly mistake for the dealership that neglected to change it. (Aston Martin, not Porsche)

 

I would agree... any kind of racing environment pushes all the components to the limits. And I would differentiate between the guy who only takes his car out for a few miles on weekends from the guy you street drives like he was in fast and the furious.. The harder you push the car the more critical the service and inspections.

 

Yes.

Just because you've never seen it, means it doesn't happen?

My bad... I meant to write "pistons".

I consider flushing the brake fluid to be part of maintaining the system. It's not just changing pads.


Let's just agree to disagree, OK?




(even though you know I'm right. )


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Would it be bad to upgrade the brake fluid, to a high end fluid such as AP Racing DOT 5.1? It may also be worth it to swap in SS brake lines since a flush is required in that task.

Do you guys know what they actually inspect? Is it just take a look under the car or is it to the magnitude of measuring wear of clutch plates type stuff?

 

I agree to disagree