Looking at a manual C4S without Sport Chrono so no rev matching. My preference was PDK with Sport Chrono to get max performance.

So is no SC with a manual a deal breaker?

 

You should get what you want!

 

I drove the manual before I purchased my PDK. It's amazing. There is a reason the manual is going away. Good luck in your quest!

 

I have the manual with Sport Chrono - it's a lot of fun and I think is more desirable than cars without.

 

PDK is definitively the future, particularly with the rumored 991.2 turbos / would not want that in a manual...

 

I agree with all you have said and that's what I would tell someone else, it's just if it's a great deal makes it harder. Short term lease so not married to it.

 

I have a manual with SC and it makes no difference in the drive. There are components that are part of it that may...

 

I guess the main difference would be rev matching in Sport+

 

I've had 'em both...now I'm a little bit Old School, but I prefer the manual, and that's what's on my 991S currently. Unless you are SCCA or PCA racing in a class, or feel the need to drag race kids in their Sti's at the stoplight, the 'performance' benefit is incremental. The more important question is - which do you enjoy? That's the one to get. Any fool can drive an automatic transmission car, it takes some finesse and talent to drive a manual trans well. There will come a day when Porsche no longer offers a manual transmission, and the value of those cars that still have it will skyrocket just as 993's have now (last of the air-cooled), etc. Plus the manual costs quite a bit less and will be easier to service down the road - that won't matter to the leasing guys though.

 

The 991 was engineered around the PDK. The car suits the PDK much more than a manual.

 

I have a manual with SC but without rev-matching as it was built too early in the 2013 model year.


You only get rev-matching in "sport +".


Unless you want to have rev-matching only some of the time you would need to always drive in "sport +". I guess that is okay but I don't do it. I pretty much never have it in "sport +" because, with a manual, it is not much different than "sport".

Having rev-matching just some of the time would be a bit bothersome. Once you have done rev-matching yourself for a while it is sort of an involuntary reflex. I think turning that reflex off when you put it in Sport + would be difficult.

Frankly, one of the best things about the manual is doing the rev-matching myself. It is not that easy to get it just right and satisfying when you do.


Note: Since others felt the need to spout off on the "future" and such I would just say that I would never own a car, that I purchased for fun and recreation, with an automatic. How fast it shifts is completely irrelevant to driving enjoyment outside a track environment. Also, where I live, sales are 50/50 manual and automatic.


Still, you seem to be considering the manual because of cost savings. I certainly wouldn't do that. If you want an automatic, then you should hold out for that.

 

I rarely, if ever, use Sport Plus. The rev-matching feature is nice when you're pushing the car or tracking, but even then, I try to stay in Sport.

Sport Plus has rev-matching on downshifts, but it also has rev-"holding" on upshifts. After you shift into the next gear up, the computer will hold your engine RPMs at the correct level so that engagement is smooth.

This gear-hold feature is actually one of the reasons why I dislike Sport Plus. Unless you're a complete novice to driving a manual, you can undoubtedly perform smoother upshifts without this system's help.

 

personally,

no SC is a deal breaker on a PDK car.

On a MT, it doesn't offer much except for the timer bubble and rev matching in sport plus. And to be perfectly honest, rev matching is really a fun party trick thing to me - most people that are buying these in manual bought it so they could do the rev matching themselves. It defeats the whole purpose of going old school and being nostalgic. But it is a fun little toy to play with and added buttons. So i got my 7mt with it, but no word on actual use, picking her up tmrw!

 

Absolutely not. As noted, it doesn't do much for you except give you a silly stopwatch on the dash.

I don't know what you mean by "max performance". But if you want a PDK, then buy a PDK. There are thousands of used cars available, just wait a few days until something that meets your criteria pops up.

 

Don't forget the Dynamic Engine mount that comes with SC.....