Depreciation Rate for 991
#46
Not in VA, you get screwed coming and going. No credit for sales tax paid + you pay property tax every year. Complete BS.
#47
Yikes
#48
Effective July 1, 2014, unless exempted under Va. Code § 58.1-2402, Virginia levies a 4.05% Motor Vehicle Sales and Use (SUT) Tax based on the vehicle's gross sales price or $75, whichever is greater. An additional $64 fee applies to electric vehicles, excluding mopeds.
For the purposes of the Motor Vehicle Sales and Use Tax collection, gross sales price includes the dealer processing fee. The gross sales price is the vehicle price after the manufacturers' rebates or manufacturers' incentives. Gross sales price does not include any other price reductions, such as credit for trade-ins, unpaid liens or other unpaid credits.
#52
That's a whole different mess up there... Remember we also pay annually on our cars, some BS they call Property Tax. The worst is when they claimed my Escalade appreciated year over year and increased my property tax. How about that???
#53
My 2013 991S Coupe PDK depreciated 35.2% from MSRP. Purchased new at a slight (IMO) discount from $125K MSRP + 10% more $$ in sales tax and license. Owned 25 months.
Delivered Jan 2013 new; Sold 2/15 to a dealer who sold it to an independent for what they paid me. Negotiated my new vehicle $$ before I told them about the 991. Received tax credit difference. - cash deal.
8 bids total- 4 were from authorized Porsche dealers & were at least $7K lower than what I was able to finally achieve. P-car dealers said market is soft on 991. Too many new & used available (of course).
17K miles. Tires 50% F, 25% rear remaining. All service completed. Car was immaculate.
My recent depreciation experience....
Delivered Jan 2013 new; Sold 2/15 to a dealer who sold it to an independent for what they paid me. Negotiated my new vehicle $$ before I told them about the 991. Received tax credit difference. - cash deal.
8 bids total- 4 were from authorized Porsche dealers & were at least $7K lower than what I was able to finally achieve. P-car dealers said market is soft on 991. Too many new & used available (of course).
17K miles. Tires 50% F, 25% rear remaining. All service completed. Car was immaculate.
My recent depreciation experience....
Last edited by HotHonda; 02-17-2015 at 07:53 AM.
#54
My 2013 991S Coupe PDK depreciated 35.2% from MSRP. Purchased new at a slight (IMO) discount from $125K MSRP + 10% more $$ in sales tax and license. Owned 25 months.
Delivered Jan 2013 new; Sold 2/15 to a dealer who sold it to an independent for what they paid me. Negotiated my new vehicle $$ before I told them about the 991. Received tax credit difference. - cash deal.
8 bids total- 4 were from authorized Porsche dealers & were at least $7K lower than what I was able to finally achieve. P-car dealers said market is soft on 991. Too many new & used available (of course).
17K miles. Tires 50% F, 25% rear remaining. All service completed. Car was immaculate.
My recent depreciation experience....
Delivered Jan 2013 new; Sold 2/15 to a dealer who sold it to an independent for what they paid me. Negotiated my new vehicle $$ before I told them about the 991. Received tax credit difference. - cash deal.
8 bids total- 4 were from authorized Porsche dealers & were at least $7K lower than what I was able to finally achieve. P-car dealers said market is soft on 991. Too many new & used available (of course).
17K miles. Tires 50% F, 25% rear remaining. All service completed. Car was immaculate.
My recent depreciation experience....
#55
It's all relative. Lose 10K or 25% on a 40K car and it's not a lot of cash to most guys here.
You can lose 50K on a 991 Turbo S in less than a year.
The more expensive they are, the dollar figures are more obviously.
#56
My 2013 991S Coupe PDK depreciated 35.2% from MSRP. Purchased new at a slight (IMO) discount from $125K MSRP + 10% more $$ in sales tax and license. Owned 25 months.
Delivered Jan 2013 new; Sold 2/15 to a dealer who sold it to an independent for what they paid me. Negotiated my new vehicle $$ before I told them about the 991. Received tax credit difference. - cash deal.
8 bids total- 4 were from authorized Porsche dealers & were at least $7K lower than what I was able to finally achieve. P-car dealers said market is soft on 991. Too many new & used available (of course).
17K miles. Tires 50% F, 25% rear remaining. All service completed. Car was immaculate.
My recent depreciation experience....
Delivered Jan 2013 new; Sold 2/15 to a dealer who sold it to an independent for what they paid me. Negotiated my new vehicle $$ before I told them about the 991. Received tax credit difference. - cash deal.
8 bids total- 4 were from authorized Porsche dealers & were at least $7K lower than what I was able to finally achieve. P-car dealers said market is soft on 991. Too many new & used available (of course).
17K miles. Tires 50% F, 25% rear remaining. All service completed. Car was immaculate.
My recent depreciation experience....
#57
I have a 10k mile/yr 27 month lease on my 2014 991 C2. The MSRP was $104,350 and when I was done negotiating and converting the leasing transaction to a straight purchase, I paid $96,600. The residual on the car is $73,994. This amounts to 23% depreciation at the end of the 27 month term.
Residuals aren't a true reflection of market rates.
Last edited by STG991; 02-18-2015 at 10:25 AM.
#58
I agree that residuals do not guarantee market value. Residuals are a buyout value that is contractually guaranteed. In my case (or any lease transaction) this becomes the floor as it can be purchased for that value. If its worth more, great if not walk.
This is one of the many reasons why I lease. I know exactly what the depreciation is (worst case) from day one over the time I will have the car. The greatest savings occurs when utilized in one's business as leased cars are not subject to the same luxury car limitations as owned vehicles.
It does appear that well optioned cars like the "S" depreciate more rapidly than the base cars.
#59
I bought a late 2012 CPO 991 S in Jan 2014 which MSRP was $142K plus....GT silver w PCCM/Burmeister/PDCC/sportsplus/PSE/Full leather/18 wayseats/CPO till 2018..loaded to the tee for $96500 (got all 4 new P zeros in it too)
I thought I had a great deal! wondering what would it sell for in 2017?
I thought I had a great deal! wondering what would it sell for in 2017?
#60
I bought a late 2012 CPO 991 S in Jan 2014 which MSRP was $142K plus....GT silver w PCCM/Burmeister/PDCC/sportsplus/PSE/Full leather/18 wayseats/CPO till 2018..loaded to the tee for $96500 (got all 4 new P zeros in it too) I thought I had a great deal! wondering what would it sell for in 2017?
On average, your car will lose around $800 per month in depreciation in the next 3 years or so and will slow down after that.
Last edited by STG991; 02-19-2015 at 08:43 AM.