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Old 09-09-2016 | 01:49 PM
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What is a good price for this 991?

Local Porsche dealer has a 2013 Carrera S with 16k miles. Black with manual transmission. Non CPO. Very good condition. Options are the following;

PDCC/PASM, Sport Exhaust, Sport Chrono, Sunroof, Sport Seats plus, heated seats, 20 inch Carrera classic wheels, Nav, Black leather seats, Bose.

I won't say the price, interested in hearing posters opinions first. Thanks in advance!
 

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Old 09-09-2016 | 06:13 PM
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can you get a VIN? Original MSRP? Looks like a 130kish with the options you listed.

Without CPO I would guess they are asking around 80k. If you can get it for around 70k, it would be a decent deal.

I would try to get CPO if possible.

I paid 84k for a similar spec 7MT white 2013 C2S with CPO (PDCC, SPASM, SC, Sports Exhaust, sunroof, sport techno wheels) 20k miles
 
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Old 09-09-2016 | 07:05 PM
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ask about the over rev history. if the car got the crap revved out of it, porsche won't cpo the car.
 
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Old 09-09-2016 | 07:51 PM
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Looks nice. I agree low 70s would be good. Certainly not the $78,447 + $649 dealer fees they have it listed for. What's the MSRP?

I agree about asking for CPO, or at least finding out if they can't CPO it (over revs, needs tires, panels painted, etc.) Also don't let on that you prefer manuals.
 
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Old 09-09-2016 | 11:01 PM
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I'd offer 73-75K. Bet it's listed for 80K.

Why is it not CPO?
 
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Old 09-09-2016 | 11:03 PM
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ask about the over rev history. if the car got the crap revved out of it, porsche won't cpo the car.
How does one get that info?
 
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How does one get that info?
The dealer would provide it upon request.
 
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Old 09-10-2016 | 10:33 AM
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How does one get that info?
it is called DME report.
 
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definitely not worth 80k if it isn't a cpo
 
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Old 09-10-2016 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwolf
Local Porsche dealer has a 2013 Carrera S with 16k miles. Black with manual transmission. Non CPO. Very good condition. Options are the following;

PDCC/PASM, Sport Exhaust, Sport Chrono, Sunroof, Sport Seats plus, heated seats, 20 inch Carrera classic wheels, Nav, Black leather seats, Bose.

I won't say the price, interested in hearing posters opinions first. Thanks in advance!
I would ask the dealer if they would CPO the car and see what they say.
 
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Old 09-11-2016 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ronan
I'd offer 73-75K. Bet it's listed for 80K.

Why is it not CPO?
It's listed for 78k. See post above yours
 
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Old 09-11-2016 | 09:52 AM
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To all...thanks for the responses and insight. I had asked in the first discussion why it wasn't CPO and they said too expensive to do so, would have to increase price. I told them I had seen a similar car at $70k with CPO (that I regret not buying). Of course, there was not any response to that. Yesterday I emailed them asking for the OverRev diagnostic. Will let the board know if they send.

As long as everything checks out, a good price on a car like this is probably in the $73-74k range.
 
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Old 09-12-2016 | 11:08 AM
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you should ask how much it would cost to CPO. I think CPO is around 4-5k. When a car is CPO'd they typically give you a fresh set of tires, which is worth over 1,000 dollars right there.
 
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Old 09-12-2016 | 11:13 AM
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CPO costs about $2500 for the warranty plus whatever they have to do to get it up-to-code, like tires, deferred maintenance, etc.

If the OP is in Raleigh, then it's either Cary or Chapel Hill, and both of those dealers are not known for being, um, how shall I put it, below market pricing. I've dealt with Cary several times, and they are honest and honorable, so I wouldn't worry about it from that point. They probably put too much in the car on a trade.

You really shouldn't pay too much if anything for options that you don't want. They aren't worth diddly at trade-in time.
 
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Old 09-12-2016 | 11:19 AM
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If the car is listed for 78 and you think that 74 is a fair price for it, then you should negotiate the car down to 74. I'll bet you can get it, or darn close to it, especially if you can wait a month or two (assuming that they don't sell it first). It's always a game.
 


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