Upgrading turbos, staying with GIAC Programming
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10-23-2007, 02:57 PM
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More power, because, eh, I need more power. You can never have enough!!!
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10-26-2007, 02:35 PM
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There is no more danger running K24 programming with K16/24 hybrids than with K24 turbos. The boost may come on sooner, but that does not change the airflow, fuel and timing maps that are programmed into the ecu. If Suman was running lean with his combination, then it was due the programming or insufficient fuel, not the turbos. The advantage of K16/24 specific programming is more power, not more reliability.
#49
10-26-2007, 02:46 PM
There is no more danger running K24 programming with K16/24 hybrids than with K24 turbos. The boost may come on sooner, but that does not change the airflow, fuel and timing maps that are programmed into the ecu. If Suman was running lean with his combination, then it was due the programming or insufficient fuel, not the turbos. The advantage of K16/24 specific programming is more power, not more reliability.
someone please prove me wrong I wanna see dyno results with afr's of the k16/24s on EVOMS stage 3/4 programming. thank you Again even Mike at Evoms said not to do this.
Last edited by Highhats; 10-26-2007 at 02:50 PM.
#50
10-26-2007, 02:54 PM
Reardless of the underlining my car ran lean. Listen to me or don't life is full of choices. PS EPL has tuned k24 cars and at 487awhp the turbos are pretty much maxing the injectors. No matter who runs k24's or k16/24 hybrids, I would at least suggest a 5 bar or injectors and a custom tune. IMO
someone please prove me wrong I wanna see dyno results with afr's of the k16/24s on EVOMS stage 3/4 programming. thank you Again even Mike at Evoms said not to do this.
someone please prove me wrong I wanna see dyno results with afr's of the k16/24s on EVOMS stage 3/4 programming. thank you Again even Mike at Evoms said not to do this.
Is your car already tuned?
Robert
#51
10-26-2007, 02:57 PM
haha I wish Steve still has it! Im counting down the days. LOL
EPL tuned is down bellow cause this car is not an EVOMS car by any means any more thanks to combination of players including knighton and Kaspar.
S
#52
10-26-2007, 03:05 PM
What has Todd done? Did you change MAFs? Do you still have a diode? Oh I have a ton of questions...
R
#53
10-26-2007, 03:45 PM
Reardless of the underlining my car ran lean. Listen to me or don't life is full of choices. PS EPL has tuned k24 cars and at 487awhp the turbos are pretty much maxing the injectors. No matter who runs k24's or k16/24 hybrids, I would at least suggest a 5 bar or injectors and a custom tune. IMO
someone please prove me wrong I wanna see dyno results with afr's of the k16/24s on EVOMS stage 3/4 programming. thank you Again even Mike at Evoms said not to do this.
someone please prove me wrong I wanna see dyno results with afr's of the k16/24s on EVOMS stage 3/4 programming. thank you Again even Mike at Evoms said not to do this.
Basically, even stage 4 cars need injectors....thats a hard sell to many people, because the current industry norm is stock injectors are fine for big horse power.
BTW, a 5 bar wont even fully fix this issue. For true good tuning, you need injectors.
#55
10-27-2007, 01:06 PM
For reference...Injector duty cycle on a 996 with k24's. From a good tuning perspective, the car is out of injector at 4200 rpm. The car retains a resonable a/f ratio but has NO tuning resolution after 5000.
Basically, even stage 4 cars need injectors....thats a hard sell to many people, because the current industry norm is stock injectors are fine for big horse power.
BTW, a 5 bar wont even fully fix this issue. For true good tuning, you need injectors.
Basically, even stage 4 cars need injectors....thats a hard sell to many people, because the current industry norm is stock injectors are fine for big horse power.
BTW, a 5 bar wont even fully fix this issue. For true good tuning, you need injectors.
R
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10-27-2007, 03:30 PM
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Do most people here running Gt 600 or Gt650 "tuning kit" has upgraded injectors ? If that is the case, I think that there will be a lot of engine kaboom soon, since there are many many many members running those package...
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