I am sorry I have been busy and missed this post.

First off the question of if the dealer will be able to write over it and if they can tell it is there. Dealerships are getting better and better about finding things like a flash. If the dealer goes through the WHOLE binary code of the car, yes it can be found. The good thing though about Softronic flashes is that when you purchase the flash you get not only the tuned file but also your stock file. So it does not matter who makes the flash if they go through bit for bit and even one bit is modified they will find it. With the Softronic you get your stock file so when you have the ability to go back to stock at any time if you want. It is also exactly bit for bit the same so they can not tell.

As for the codes with all Softronic flashes from Vivid Racing it will allow you to get rid of the codes for cat's WHILE still working 100%. So you do not need to pull them out and they will still continue to function at full capacity.

I hope this helps some

Thanks Guys,
Mitch Mckee
Vivid Racing

 

I personally have never heard of Softronic. I have heard of Proto, GIAC, Revo, FVD, APR, Powerchip, Unichip, Gemballa, Upsolute, and other Euro tuners, but never Softronic. I am hesitant to use an ECU tuner who is new to the industry. I know your ad states that Softonic is one of the most respected in the industry, but I did a search here on 6Speed and I could not find one mention of them before your advertisement. So let me ask yet another couple of stupid questions. Why is Softronic different than the other established ECU tuners, and why is Softronic better? Are their programs different or better, or are they simply another option with good back end service? If their programs are better, how are they better?

Thanks.

 

Softronic works inconjunction with certain tuners that sponsor this forum. That is why you have not heard of them. Vivid Racing is bringing them out in a larger retail form. If that certain sponsor allows us to say they associate, then we can discuss why Softronic is better then GIAC, REVO, APR, etc.

Rest assure, Softronic is what is powering alot of the fastest Porsches here.

 

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Originally Posted by vividracing

I do need to say that i have tremendous respect for Todd at Proto since he has helped and guided us in times of need.

1 + 1 = ????

Has Proto formed a new company to market software? Or, does Softronic do Proto's ECU tuning? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

mr. fife, why make assumptions? Todd at Proto and Sam at Speed Gallery helped us with many questions and inquiries. I am simply saying they are great people.

 

No one does Proto tuning except the master mind of manipulating porsches who goes by Turbo Todd Kickass Knighton

 

Your product is very similar to Revo (data logging). Where are the dissimilarities? Can your new product be used to fine tune your ECU without purchasing another map? If not, Revo can. This is the reason why I purchased Revo because it seemed like once I purchased the software, I am good for many other bolt on modifications. If you are not familiar with Revo, please read the PDF file attached.

 

OK, so you're saying all the programming is in the software so if the dealer flashes me back to stock to diagnose something, I don't have to pull my ECU and send it somewhere for re-flash right?

Secondly, on the CEL issue from the 100 cell cat, are you saying your software can decrease the sensitivity of the sensor so the exhaust won't cause CELs? So it has a greater acceptable range?

 

No with Softronic you can just re-flash your ECU with the client cable whenever you need to.

Yes the software just decreases the threshold for the CEL to become active.

The datalogging functions are about the same. You can datalog just about anything that the ECU monitors. If you do a Datalog and then send it in to us we can get you a file that is more revised and closer to 100%.

I have done a lot of testing with chips in Audi and I am very familiar with REVO. We did some independent testing with a customer with most of the major flash companys and compiled some really solid data. If anyone is interested I can post a link.

Mitch Mckee
Vivid Racing

 

Thanks Mitch for clearing that up for us.

As you know Revo’s select plus softwareallows you to cater for differing environmental conditions and fuel quality. The Engine Control Unit caters for these differences to a certain point, utilizing the built in adaptation and knock control. However there are limits to the amount of adjustment in an ECU. Standard programs and adaptation cannot cater for such a vast array of markets from higher altitude, lower air density areas with poor quality fuel to high air density areas with premium quality fuel. The select plus softwarelets you work outside of these parameters to set the car to its optimum levels.

 

Definitely!

 

Yes this is true but to a point. First off for the adjustments that you are making with the REVO are only global adjustments. You are not really changing the lambda tables or the actual ignition values, more of just a global change to try and compensate the best that you can.

And as for the changing air density the ECU does a pretty good job correcting for any altitude change within reason. Porsche has one of the best dynamic ignition/ knock control of any vehicle out there I would bet outside of a closed loop ion sensing ignition system. Works very well.


http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=2467534

Here is the link of the comparison stuff. It took me forever to dig this up cause for some reason I just could not find it.

Hope this helps guys,

Mitch Mckee
Vivid Racing

 

Revo stated the following: Fuel Settings:

One feature of the

computer will compensate for the error allowing the safe operation of the vehicle.

 

Yes sir a global setting like I was saying. It does not change the actual lamda table values or the ignition table values, just globally modifies.

But REVO is a good product and for a while we almost became dealers. We were just happier with Softronic.

Mitch

 

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