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View Poll Results: What ECU Program are You Running?
GIAC
60
22.99%
UMW (KEVIN)
58
22.22%
Protomotive
35
13.41%
Softronic (Vivid)
21
8.05%
FVD
34
13.03%
REVO
4
1.53%
Upsolute
16
6.13%
Other non-stock
33
12.64%
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What about POWER CHIP GROUP???? They make an awsome product that is extremly reliable.
 
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I haven't made up my mind yet...but Zippy makes some very relevant and logical points regarding ongoing support and access to your tuner rather than having to go through an intermediary.

I've heard great things about Kevin and his product design as well as his ongoing support and availability. This discussion thread has been great insofar as providing info for folks looking for feedback on the various product lines.

Alex....your comment about going back to stock was priceless. It lacked credibility, but it was a great comment.
 
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I had a Cargraphics, Ecu, FVD, GIAC, and finally Protomotive. All did a decent job. I still prefer any tuner that, as Zippy said, can modify and change parameters if need be. Unfortunately there are only a few.
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
I had a Cargraphics, Ecu, FVD, GIAC, and finally Protomotive. All did a decent job. I still prefer any tuner that, as Zippy said, can modify and change parameters if need be. Unfortunately there are only a few.
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Upsolute here. I've had the tune with the k16 and then decided to go with the k16/24, headers, exhaust and evo intake. Only issue is cold weather boost spikes with throttle shut down.
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck Jones
I haven't made up my mind yet...but Zippy makes some very relevant and logical points regarding ongoing support and access to your tuner rather than having to go through an intermediary.

I've heard great things about Kevin and his product design as well as his ongoing support and availability. This discussion thread has been great insofar as providing info for folks looking for feedback on the various product lines.

Alex....your comment about going back to stock was priceless. It lacked credibility, but it was a great comment.
Heh Well figured some humor was needed. These things get too heated!
 
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:30 PM
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Protomotive.... Sold The GIAC and never looked back
 
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Old 12-20-2007, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Zippy
Why has Garrett Lim (GIAC) never posted on this site, despite the number of members that are his customers. Has anyone here ever spoken to him? There is NO phone number on the GIAC website. Is he at all accessable or is he completely untouchable - perhaps to good to deal directly with his customers. The though of this is agrivating.

I've been getting CEL lights on my car since 2003 - starting with the GT640 kit and now the GT700 kit. It seems strange that I've never had the opportunity to speak with the man directly regarding these issues. I'm not sure what value there is in speaking with a reseller of his 'programming'. There seems to be significant value in dealing with a tuner who is capable of making adjustments to the ECU program on your car vs some mystery guy who has no interest in ever speaking with you. I would definately reccomend dealing with someone who is personally responsible for writing your ECU code when picking a partner to begin your modding journey with.

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Old 12-20-2007, 07:13 PM
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ECU in my GT2 was flashed by NGT Motorsports in FL, per their records with former owner. Dynoed by former owner at about 475 rwhp. Very pleasant street driving plus lot's power on demand.
 
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Do Giac, UMW, Protomotive, Upsolute, Softronic, Orton, FVD, and Revo all write their own custom software? I always kind of assumed that they were all pretty similar with their base performance program, and just tweaked it a little bit to their preferences.

With so many people offering ECU upgrades now, how different can the software be? Apparently the secret to programming these cars is out and everyone knows it at this point. What is it that sets one apart from the other? I have Giac in my SC'd 3.6 It's been pretty good so far. My AF ratio is way conservative in the 10's at WOT, it rarely throws cels, and it idles like stock.
 
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Happy Protomotive customer,

Plus the snake killing and luxurious cabin accommodations are hard to beat..

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The best way to compare is do some friendly side by side comparisons. 0-80 MPH runs.
 
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by robertp
The best way to compare is do some friendly side by side comparisons. 0-80 MPH runs.
Robert, 0-80 is probably not the best way to compare anything. The current 60-130 seems to be the best compromise. The main issue with 0 -80 is the fact you start at 0. How fast the car leaves a standing start is arguably more driver related that ECU related and will skew the times. A 60-130 run removes any issues with traction off the line and is a better comparison of overall power....
 
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Protomotive.... Sold The GIAC and never looked back
How did you sell the GIAC?
 


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