Besides our out of state customers and our big turbo upgrade cars, we had not had the chance to show what the Softronic is capable of doing to a stock K16 or K24 turbo car. 6speeder and AZ local Chris brought us this black 996TT with its only mods being a K&N flat panel filter and some EVO diverter valves. In addition to a Fabspeed Gen III exhaust he brought us to install, we put on some cool pedals and did the Softronic reflash. Our first step was to do a baseline dyno. At around 10am we ran the car which was about 70F in the dyno room. With fans on the front and intercoolers, the car put down on our Mustang dyno 346hp/348tq. Normally stock K16 cars run about 15hp less on our dyno. Not sure about the pull. We reverted back to a baseline run we did for Chris in April which was about 330hp/362tq which is normally what we see. As well, when we ran the car after the flash, the temperature was similar to the April testing. All dyno variables kept consistant, we choose to compare this baseline to the after.

We downloaded the stock file and loaded to the Softronic server (instructions here) where they were standing by. They made the correct changes for the K16 car which physically adjusts the Lambda and Timing tables to give you the best map the first time which will also adjust to different modifications and octanes as well (see comparison). Softronic then sent us the file back which we loaded in the car. This process was about 1 hour total. We then ran the car. The car made 1.2 bar then significantly dropped boost causing a loss in hp and tq. With past experience pointing to the diverter valves, we checked them and noticed the piston seal had major play which was causing the boost to leak. To put attention to the problem, we decided to stray from our normal Forge valves which work perfect and test out Stratmospheres HYPERBOOST valves on the car. These valves have an amazing design, fit, and price. The valves were quickly installed free of charge and we ran the car again. The boost held consistant at 16psi (1.1-1.2bar) in the 3rd gear pull.

In addition to the exhaust and intake, which we did not independently test and do not know what value they added if any, we were very impressed with the Softronic gain on 91 octane. As our first chance to dyno the before and after with Softronic compared to our previous tunes using Upsolute, the numbers were outstanding. The torque (which you feel first!) was an amazing 462ft/lbs to the AWD. That was a gain of almost 100 at the wheels. We can say that normally you see around 80 so the valves holding boost gave it a strong peak torque and the free flowing exhaust should have helped it as well. The horsepower went up 64 All Wheel Horsepower at the peak. However if you look at the midrange from 3400rpm to 5300rpm, the car made about 100 plus wheel horsepower! Peak means nothing really. And for all you concerned about Air Fuel readings from the others reflashes, there is this car on the graph in a perfect safe setting from start to finish.

With our parasitic multiplier at 1.0 (correct calibration) the car did well. Put this on a dyno jet and you have a K16 car reading close to 450 at the wheels! Truly the real acceptance of this upgrade is by the owners grin

Whos next?

 

Congrats Dan ,but to be honest it is kinda BS that you are using a baseline from months ago. That is the beauty of a flash, it is quick and easy and can be done in an hour like you say so why not do a before and after within 60 minutes and use that data. Just because you think the baseline is too high and wont show enough gain overall is no reason not to use it.... 2cents

 

I agree 100%, you should use current data..... Also, why would you call the first customer a "victim". No trying to be a ball buster, but not a very good marketing phrase IMO...

 

apparently you did not read the entire post which I gave you the numbers of the baseline today. when you look at the relative humidity and temperatures of each run, there was a variance of 18F which can definitely through off numbers. before and after dyno runs are about being consistant. the previous baseline was more accurate than that 1 run today which seemed fluky.

 

the good part about the word "victim" is it caught your attention and he is the first AZ victim of our amazing capabilities compared to the other local facilities. at the same time you can attack what you want, including our DEAD STRAIGHT honesty instead of our competition which runs cars in 2wd, or on race gas, or on higher reading dyno's to show you that you got a number which in the real world is not true.

so again... right on to this car and its increases!

 

what and who are you talking about?Back it up now that you said it!

 

Oh God, here we go..... I don't want to get involved with all that BS. I was simply just trying to point out that maybe a better "Sales" or "Marketing" phrase may be better to use than "Victim" for a Site Sponsor who is trying to sell his product..... I have owned & modified MANY cars and if I was called a "Victim" after spending $$$ at your shop for your product - I would be pissed, worried and want the product removed ASAP... Again, just my 2 cents..

Anyways - Congrats on the gains! I will leave it at that

 

WHAT HE SAID!

 

joe - you got a monster of a car from your sig, looks good.

We just put the actual data out there that we get. Again like I said in the post we used the most consistant data. The funny thing is that none of this would matter if I never did a baseline this morning. I was simply pointing out that it was interesting the fact that the air temperature being so much colder or for some fluke run from calibration or what not (I was not in the room at the baseline time), the number was so different. You can look at many of the 996TT K16 flashes that we did in the past with Upsolute and see that the baselines were usually around the 330 mark on our dyno. Including my own car which was 333hp and 343tq. View these HERE.

I try always shoot my customers straight and to the point, and those who have done business with Vivid Racing, and there are alot on this board now, appreciate it. I also, appreciate them. I am not trying to offend you or others, but you can see by our tests, our numbers, and other info what the product that we represent was able to accomplish. We are happy to represent a quality product that truly does perform with extreme convenience, competitive price, and technology that is always cutting edge.

 

i updated the title for those concerned and not looking at the content.

the customer spent a majority of the day at the shop and had fun today. i dont think he will get upset at a forum topic . i appreciate your recommendation.

 

Pretty cool Dan. The car definitely has a solid consistent HP jump across a good RPM range.

You other people should lighten up. No reason to dissect every word.

Are you concerned that you are over spinning K16s at 1.1-1.2 BAR? Not trying to be confrontational. I was under the impression that 1.0 bar is the max safe long term setting.

I alway ran my car in 4th gear. Why are you using 3rd?

 

I am going to refrain from comments about how my 9 year old could have read Vivid's first post and easily understood it..and not had a bunch of hostility towards them.

But, I will just say, fair and reasonable.

And if you don't believe them, I am sure you can drive your car to them, and they would be glad to do a baseline pull for free...chip your car, do another pull...and if it does what they say..you pay double.

But I don't work for Vivid and that is entirely up to them how they want to market and get customers in the door to prove the product.

Good day.

 

Dyno numbers are just relative, although they make the car look cooler Take it to the track and lets see some trap speeds out of that bad boy! The numbers seem good, but lets see if it can back it up down the 1320.

 

Ari - 1.1 is good for the K16. I did 1.3 bar with external wastegates on my K16's way back when! You can see from the HP where the turbos max out as it does not climb anymore. We always do 3rd gear, 4th gear on a dyno is scary!!! We have done 4th gear pulls before and the difference is not much.

Powell - so much agree!

 

One question that I had, and I would make a new thread about it; but I'm way to lazy to click the back button. Why is that you do the dynos in 3rd gear, and not do 4th or 5th gear where its closer to a 1:1 ratio. In Vettes, Mustangs, etc. we always dyno in 4th gear which is the 1:1 gear. I know the Porsche 6speed does not have one, but you will see lower numbers because 3rd gear is a 1.4x:1 gear. I know you can get some wicked numbers out of these cars if you do some 4th or 5th gear pulls. I know on the dyno in 4th gear my brothers Vette does 160+ @ 6700rpm. Though this is all RWD, not sure how AWD Mustang dynos work. I just know on the DynoJet and Mustang Dyno that are RWD we have always used 4th gear (or closest 1:1 gear you can get).