We all know that Kevin @ UMW has been working feverishly on this
terrific new, very well researched Package. What is the expected
time to the streets on this package?

What gas do you expect to run with this package? How much boost do you expect to run? What will Kevin
set the redline at? This no doubt will be a great set-up that has
been long in the coming...Will you guys (Stage 4 guys) compete
nationally with any of the other 6speeders (I,E. Texas Mile, Maxon Mile,
TX2K8 ?, etc. )??

TIA and good luck!

freezing in Minnesota: MK

 

MK, freezing in MI....They will be on the streets when they are finished properly. Having invested this much time and money, it would be a travesty to send them out early only to have them keep returning for boost leaks, tuning tweaks etc.. I cannot answer the question on ETA, that is beyond my pay grade. My motor and Tom's are assembled. We are waiting on validation of the fuel system. If we wanted to run 7500 rpm we would have be running already. 8500 is not a particularly good time to go lean. As soon as the motor runs up to 8500 rpm and the fuel system checks out and the AFRs are good and consistent them we will get the rails and injectors that are the only parts remaining.
Gas: strictly unleaded with full emissions equipment
RPM: Kevin will run his motor on the DynaPac to 8500, maybe more. Will we get that file? Not sure, but the plan is to have at least 8300 or so to do a no shift 3rd gear 60-130.
Competition: I will compete with anyone anywhere once the car is broken in and dialed in, as long as I can find someone to transport it on the cheap
Boost: I cannot imagine anything over 1.4 or maybe 1.5 although I am sure Kevin will go higher with his own engine during tuning. At some point when this is all said and done I will go back and do a thread on what actually went into these engines,the parts, the details, and the ridiculous amount of time and effort put into these.

 

Marty, Just working out the DETAILS , thats what it's all about! I really don't want the "SNAP-CRACKLE-POP" syndrome thats going around lately, but rest assured this spring they will be done (I hope) ...This project was not easy like all builds (Mark, Scott, ROBMD, Suman, Jaggs, ETC). I'm sure they expected to be done & things get delayed out of our control....SOON SOON.

 

NO better place than TX2K8 to bring ALLLLLLLLLLLL the tuners to the same place, at the same time...to run through 4 different events.
Peter

 

Aint this the truth lol

 

No high performance engine builds are easy as far as I know and regardless how much care is put into them, there can always be something go wrong, many times due to (even) new OEM parts failure that cannot be predicted, or expected. Running higher boost and stretching the engines will increase the chances of damage.

As an example, I know of RT12s having issues and engine rebuilds with half a track day on record, as well as I know of very expensive Sportec SPR1s (2 of them in fact) having engine damage issues, It was not fun seeing in front of me the owner of an SPR1 with less than 3k miles on it, being told that his car had to be shipped back to Switzerland for an engine rebuild after having Gunther Mandl travel all the way to Dubai to diagnose what was wrong with it... about 2-3 months after having it delivered to the customer brand new. And these are of the highest quality builds for Porsche engines and chassis, no $$$ spared, as I have seen personally on this car that I test drove.

However It is better to be safe than sorry for sure, what is the most important is to have the engine builder fully guarantee the engine and take care of any problems that might arise, because they will. Unfortunately this is not the case with many, in US , Europe or anywhere.

 

Interesting use of bold... what tuner fully guarantees his engines?

 

Jean,

No tunner Fully Guarantees A race engine! But I am Pretty sure if **** go's wrong he's got my back ....Tom

 

And even if they did... that's just words on a piece of paper. There's no substitue for looking into a man's eye, shaking his hand and knowing that they'll do the right thing if something goes wrong (something that is legitimately due to their error). From what I've read/heard, Kevin seems like that kind of guy.
Can't wait to see what these beasts can do!

 

Most engines have no warranties... especially race motors... but Kevin is a good guy so I'm sure he will stand behind the build out.

 

Not that I like any of them, but the two tuners that I mentioned above guarantee their engines, proof is they flew their best man on site, flew the car back to their premises for $10,000 and took care of everything.

That is not the point of my post though, the point is that no matter how good a build or a builder is, and how expensive, it is prone to getting damaged unfortunately. Customized state of the art builds have been done for years now, it is nothign new, some of those engines cost North of $200k, with F1 parts and what have you, it does not matter, a build is as strong as its weakest link, and that link is often the least expected.

Try checking how many factory custom prepped $1million 997RSRs and Cup cars don't make it through a 24hour race, I have seen it first hand last week end. Ours that was 100% standard made it. You just never know where the weak link is.

What matters most is what sort of support do you get from the builder when this happens, as most likely on these high strung engines something will, sooner or later, bigger or smaller.

 

Gentlemen
Best of Luck to you all.

 

Patriots suck and the Chargers will hand them the most historical loss of all time!

 

Thanks for that deep insight into the Porsche tuning world. I feel much better know.

 

Good luck with the home streth Kevin!!! I have no doubt that the end result will more than justify your extraordinary efforts.

Regards,

Craig