question about ft/lbs k16/16 and garret 650
#1
question about ft/lbs k16/16 and garret 650
Could someone explane me how it's possible that on the dyno the K16/16G has 534ft/lbs and the vivid 650 hp kit (garret turbo) only dyno's at 530ft/lbs?
Makes no sense to me,how can someone explane this?
Asking this because I'm interested in the 650 hp kit...
Makes no sense to me,how can someone explane this?
Asking this because I'm interested in the 650 hp kit...
#5
My big turbo 1.8t (gt3076) also made 270 ftlbs of torque but made 330 hps....
Comparing torque from quick spooling "stock" size turbos vs bigger gt turbos can be deceiving.
#6
This Vivid kit is a kit with potential. Much like the k24/28g. You only buy those turbos for big power(Straight Garrett ball bearing gt2860rs's). This kit with a custom tune will make big big power. You can see this car is conservatively tuned with a 11.5 afr. The Porsche on pump gas likes to run a bit leaner. I mean theres at least 30 whp and 60lbs of torque left in this kit. You got to remember these OTS tunes are extrememly conservative. One bad batch of pump gas can be kaboom. If I were to pick any kit if I started over again with out building the motor, it would be this one. I really dont feel like the luxury tax on most other kits is worth the bang you get. Also the customer relations with Dan is clutch. K16/16g's are maxed out around 600crank HP. These GT turbos are designed for an easy 700-750 crank if tuned aggressively.
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#10
its all about race gas, boost, and what you set the parasitic multiplier to on your Mustang Dyno. If I want, I can have our 650 kit read like a 700 kit. Our dyno also is on 93oct, not Race Gas...
Nothing against Seal or Nerd, but I bet if I ran that car on my dyno, the numbers would be less...
Nothing against Seal or Nerd, but I bet if I ran that car on my dyno, the numbers would be less...
#11
its all about race gas, boost, and what you set the parasitic multiplier to on your Mustang Dyno. If I want, I can have our 650 kit read like a 700 kit. Our dyno also is on 93oct, not Race Gas...
Nothing against Seal or Nerd, but I bet if I ran that car on my dyno, the numbers would be less...
Nothing against Seal or Nerd, but I bet if I ran that car on my dyno, the numbers would be less...
Post a plot.
Last edited by nerdhotrod; 02-18-2008 at 03:59 PM.
#12
This could get into a deep long wasted thread. I have tons of dyno sheets for customers we have ran here on our dyno here - http://www.vividracing.com/forums/ga...p?c=294&userid=
We did change our calibration at least 2 times over the past 1.5 years. So there will be some inconsistancy in ours stock cars.
When I first got my 996TT it dynoed at 333awhp. I have seen other shops showing 360 even 370awhp. I guess the biggest thing to help Dixie is what is best for his car and needs. He just needs to see that your results are on full race gas (I think) and the 650 is on pump.
I have a set of K16/16G here ready to ship, and I know that they would make a good home on someones car with your tune. Great setup, that is why I jumped on the project to offer them. However, a 996TT with a stock exhaust making 530 someodd ft/lbs of torque is alot. Not hating bro....impressive.
Back when I did my external wastegate project, we ran 1.3bar, stock K16 turbos, JIC 80mm exhaust, headers (obviously), intake, and these are the results we got 540 ft/lbs of torque on race gas I think... So is it possible what you did, yes. - http://www.vividracing.com/forums/pr...t-exposed.html
I just have to defend my product comparisons.
We did change our calibration at least 2 times over the past 1.5 years. So there will be some inconsistancy in ours stock cars.
When I first got my 996TT it dynoed at 333awhp. I have seen other shops showing 360 even 370awhp. I guess the biggest thing to help Dixie is what is best for his car and needs. He just needs to see that your results are on full race gas (I think) and the 650 is on pump.
I have a set of K16/16G here ready to ship, and I know that they would make a good home on someones car with your tune. Great setup, that is why I jumped on the project to offer them. However, a 996TT with a stock exhaust making 530 someodd ft/lbs of torque is alot. Not hating bro....impressive.
Back when I did my external wastegate project, we ran 1.3bar, stock K16 turbos, JIC 80mm exhaust, headers (obviously), intake, and these are the results we got 540 ft/lbs of torque on race gas I think... So is it possible what you did, yes. - http://www.vividracing.com/forums/pr...t-exposed.html
I just have to defend my product comparisons.
#13
This could get into a deep long wasted thread. I have tons of dyno sheets for customers we have ran here on our dyno here - http://www.vividracing.com/forums/ga...p?c=294&userid=
We did change our calibration at least 2 times over the past 1.5 years. So there will be some inconsistancy in ours stock cars.
When I first got my 996TT it dynoed at 333awhp. I have seen other shops showing 360 even 370awhp. I guess the biggest thing to help Dixie is what is best for his car and needs. He just needs to see that your results are on full race gas (I think) and the 650 is on pump.
I have a set of K16/16G here ready to ship, and I know that they would make a good home on someones car with your tune. Great setup, that is why I jumped on the project to offer them. However, a 996TT with a stock exhaust making 530 someodd ft/lbs of torque is alot. Not hating bro....impressive.
Back when I did my external wastegate project, we ran 1.3bar, stock K16 turbos, JIC 80mm exhaust, headers (obviously), intake, and these are the results we got 540 ft/lbs of torque on race gas I think... So is it possible what you did, yes. - http://www.vividracing.com/forums/pr...t-exposed.html
I just have to defend my product comparisons.
We did change our calibration at least 2 times over the past 1.5 years. So there will be some inconsistancy in ours stock cars.
When I first got my 996TT it dynoed at 333awhp. I have seen other shops showing 360 even 370awhp. I guess the biggest thing to help Dixie is what is best for his car and needs. He just needs to see that your results are on full race gas (I think) and the 650 is on pump.
I have a set of K16/16G here ready to ship, and I know that they would make a good home on someones car with your tune. Great setup, that is why I jumped on the project to offer them. However, a 996TT with a stock exhaust making 530 someodd ft/lbs of torque is alot. Not hating bro....impressive.
Back when I did my external wastegate project, we ran 1.3bar, stock K16 turbos, JIC 80mm exhaust, headers (obviously), intake, and these are the results we got 540 ft/lbs of torque on race gas I think... So is it possible what you did, yes. - http://www.vividracing.com/forums/pr...t-exposed.html
I just have to defend my product comparisons.
Here is a plot of a stock car on my dyno: 327 hps 375 ftlbs.
Also a plot of a stock car on your dyno : 330 hps 362 ftlbs.
Looks close enough to call it pretty damn close. Again, I agree it end here.
#14
Also, my car dynoed 327 stock to your 330 stock. Also, if you look at your results for your K24/18g kit, they are similar to what the K24/18g cars did on Tony's dyno. Given those two data points, I think your dynos read similarly.