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I was looking for around 625 whp. so I guess 24/18gs is not the way to go huh. What would be a good turbo set-up for this?
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
Here is a dyno on a full 24/18gs... granted it's one of the best I have seen....

This would most likely be less then 600 whps on a mustang dyno. Thats what I own so thats mainly what I can compare numbers from.

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Originally Posted by carbonbmw
I was looking for around 625 whp. so I guess 24/18gs is not the way to go huh. What would be a good turbo set-up for this?
Its does produce 615 to 625 rwhp depending dyno and other atmospheric variables. But you need the full set with intercoolers, injectors, intake, etc...
Dont get stuck on a HP number... as dyno numbers can be deceiving....
some cars peak a HP number while others deliver it thru out the RPM range.
Another way to go is with gt3076r turbos with .82 A/R and sing Vivid's headers and flanges so you do t have to do too much custom work. at 1.5 bars on 109 gas a protomotive set up does 650 to 670 rwhp.

However, I drove a full k24/20g set up and it was insane.. actually it gave me a run for my money... Protomotive did the work. The ecu was custom tuned though over time so that car was simply insane. It ran at least a 10.2 at 139 mph in the 1/4...

so you have options
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Woodster has 18/24's and he ran a sub 6.5 second 60-130. To beat that safely, corbonbmw you will have to spend huge bucks and build the motor.

Todds full set up isn't cheap by any means, but it is very hard to beat if you want a fast reliable set up.
 
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Originally Posted by Dr_jitsu

Todds full set up isn't cheap by any means, but it is very hard to beat if you want a fast reliable set up.
he can always go to Switzer in Ohio- thats close and he does Todd's sets ups...
Todd is so slammed now is the time to make a move if you want a car by summer.
And if thats the case I would go with gt3076rs and call it a day... Switzer has shown incredible fab work...
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dgreen78 have you ran the 1/4 mile yet? or what do most pe700 cars run in the 1/4 mile or even a 60-130 time.
thanks guys, I might end up buying this set-up and just wanted to know

Friend of mine in Taiwan has only K24/18G, chip, DV, 5 bar FPR, exhaust, GT2's IC, 75mm TB and 75mm RSS plenum. His tip 996TT with stock injector and fuel pump is able to run 6.93 sec for 100~200 km (62~124.3mph)and 18.8sec for 200~300km(124.3~186mph). Those are very impressive number.
 

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not many people are running the k24/20g or atleast i havnt heard of many. Is there a reason for that, or is the gt3076rs just a better option. The gt3076rs are making like 60-70 more whp then k24/18g g set up, is the tq also up with the gt3076rs or are they about the same as the k24/18g. And what set-up has a faster spool.
 
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K24/20 == direct bolt on (really good power per dollar, but I believe they thrive
on high boost?)

GT30's == fabbed headers, fabbed exhuaust,
new oil lines, create (new) water lines, etc.

The Garrats are tough to beat if you have the means...
Since Proto is slammed I would take a drive to Cleveland and look at
Switzer's work. He can set you up at any level of power you want,
the only thing separating you from big power is $$$$$.

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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
Its does produce 615 to 625 rwhp depending dyno and other atmospheric variables. But you need the full set with intercoolers, injectors, intake, etc...
Dont get stuck on a HP number... as dyno numbers can be deceiving....
some cars peak a HP number while others deliver it thru out the RPM range.
Another way to go is with gt3076r turbos with .82 A/R and sing Vivid's headers and flanges so you do t have to do too much custom work. at 1.5 bars on 109 gas a protomotive set up does 650 to 670 rwhp.

However, I drove a full k24/20g set up and it was insane.. actually it gave me a run for my money... Protomotive did the work. The ecu was custom tuned though over time so that car was simply insane. It ran at least a 10.2 at 139 mph in the 1/4...

so you have options
markski
Mark i wonder whos car that was .....,btw i gotta hit ya up 2night i got a qustion or two..
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI

However, I drove a full k24/20g set up and it was insane.. actually it gave me a run for my money... Protomotive did the work. The ecu was custom tuned though over time so that car was simply insane. It ran at least a 10.2 at 139 mph in the 1/4...
How much work is involved to convert a PE650 car to the K24/20G's? IS the "700" intake ducting nessesary? Second Fuel pump, injectors etc....
 
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I have heard that the GT30 produce much more torque. Torque is what bends the rods.
 
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Here's another dyno for a full Protomotive 700kit



Here is my timeslip for a full weight AWD 996TT with a full tank of Sunoco 260 GT Plus
This is before a short shift kit too.


BTW I have 86,000 miles on this car had the kit put on @ 62,000 miles and the only problem I had was a small boost leak.
 
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Originally Posted by carbonbmw
not many people are running the k24/20g or atleast i havnt heard of many. Is there a reason for that,
That is is because the tuner does not offer it.... only one exists and I drove it... But if you bug him enough he will hook it up for you. Advantage is that its a direct bolt up and you save a lot of money. almost as powerful at the same boost level as gt35rs but with less TQ- and of course like someone said it's the TQ that bends rods...

YEs you need the full intake and fuel system to run 20gs....
 
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I cant wait to see what Chris's car will do with his GT30s?
 
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My GT2 made 625 rwhp at AWE's Mustang dyno.
 


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