889 rwhp/776 rwtq @ 1.6 BAR
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03-19-2008 | 09:55 AM
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Justin just told me about it - local Tx guy who's been around the scene I guess for awhile - I forget his name. Dyno'd very strong the other day.
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03-19-2008 | 04:05 PM
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03-19-2008 | 04:48 PM
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Great Scott! That's a grocery getter if I've ever heard of one! I'd guess that if you're drag racing that car, it's good for 10 runs before the bottom comes out and the pistons are finished.
Seriously though, unless this turns into "Drag Times" magazine, it'd be good to consider that at around 550WHP/600WTQ (Your basic 700 Kit) that you're running @ about 200hp per liter.
Figuring that you will likely not run it close to that output all of the time, you're likely to get 70,000 miles from that build (assuming a fresh motor + rods to begin with) because it's likely you're not running at 1.4BAR all of the time.
There are very good formulas for this which I am trying to dig up, just to see what, truly, you could get in terms of wear and tear on a 700hp daily driver. If it's reasonable to see 100K miles on a stock turbo, which we have all seen evidence of, then perhaps it would follow that the GT700 cars would be capable (with 60% more final output) of lasting for 70,000 miles.
Consider the luxury of having that kind of power, all of the time, and KNOWING that it's going to last and last and last. To me that's REAL engineering. We're all aware that you can run boost until the motor blows and whatever that HP number was, well, it really "WAS" because, just like the Looney Tunes trick of swallowing gasoline + nitroglycerin, then jumping up and down right before lighting your cigar.... You can only do that trick once.
I'll try to leave the cement filled Supras for someone else.
Seriously though, unless this turns into "Drag Times" magazine, it'd be good to consider that at around 550WHP/600WTQ (Your basic 700 Kit) that you're running @ about 200hp per liter.
Figuring that you will likely not run it close to that output all of the time, you're likely to get 70,000 miles from that build (assuming a fresh motor + rods to begin with) because it's likely you're not running at 1.4BAR all of the time.
There are very good formulas for this which I am trying to dig up, just to see what, truly, you could get in terms of wear and tear on a 700hp daily driver. If it's reasonable to see 100K miles on a stock turbo, which we have all seen evidence of, then perhaps it would follow that the GT700 cars would be capable (with 60% more final output) of lasting for 70,000 miles.
Consider the luxury of having that kind of power, all of the time, and KNOWING that it's going to last and last and last. To me that's REAL engineering. We're all aware that you can run boost until the motor blows and whatever that HP number was, well, it really "WAS" because, just like the Looney Tunes trick of swallowing gasoline + nitroglycerin, then jumping up and down right before lighting your cigar.... You can only do that trick once.
I'll try to leave the cement filled Supras for someone else.
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03-19-2008 | 04:57 PM
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Actually the owner of that car doesn't even drive it. Other people do. He is just so rich that he will drop hundreds of thousands of dollars just for bragging rights.
And Speed, you cant beat the iron block GTZ Supra for reliability and max power output.
The Porsche is the best all around car (if you factor in road racing) but for big power the GTZ is King especially for its displacement. It will run 20 PSI all day.
And Speed, you cant beat the iron block GTZ Supra for reliability and max power output.
The Porsche is the best all around car (if you factor in road racing) but for big power the GTZ is King especially for its displacement. It will run 20 PSI all day.
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03-19-2008 | 06:16 PM
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Is it one of Ross Bairds cars? He has a few Supras and I believe one of them was a clean 3.4L/80 6SPD (along with a wild low mileage 97 Auto I sold him a few years back).
Speed -
20-25K into a Supra engine, no cement needed will get you reliable 1,100HP, 1450HP track power if you prefer.
When you see the White one out there shifting to 8.5Xs and then driving around to the street races, highway drags, etc it might change your mind. They're quite reliable as 800HP can be done reliably without taking the valve covers off.
-Wes
Speed -
20-25K into a Supra engine, no cement needed will get you reliable 1,100HP, 1450HP track power if you prefer.
When you see the White one out there shifting to 8.5Xs and then driving around to the street races, highway drags, etc it might change your mind. They're quite reliable as 800HP can be done reliably without taking the valve covers off.
-Wes
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03-19-2008 | 08:24 PM
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Speed -
20-25K into a Supra engine, no cement needed will get you reliable 1,100HP, 1450HP track power if you prefer.
When you see the White one out there shifting to 8.5Xs and then driving around to the street races, highway drags, etc it might change your mind. They're quite reliable as 800HP can be done reliably without taking the valve covers off.
-Wes
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03-19-2008 | 11:42 PM
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Great Scott! That's a grocery getter if I've ever heard of one! I'd guess that if you're drag racing that car, it's good for 10 runs before the bottom comes out and the pistons are finished.
Seriously though, unless this turns into "Drag Times" magazine, it'd be good to consider that at around 550WHP/600WTQ (Your basic 700 Kit) that you're running @ about 200hp per liter.
Figuring that you will likely not run it close to that output all of the time, you're likely to get 70,000 miles from that build (assuming a fresh motor + rods to begin with) because it's likely you're not running at 1.4BAR all of the time.
There are very good formulas for this which I am trying to dig up, just to see what, truly, you could get in terms of wear and tear on a 700hp daily driver. If it's reasonable to see 100K miles on a stock turbo, which we have all seen evidence of, then perhaps it would follow that the GT700 cars would be capable (with 60% more final output) of lasting for 70,000 miles.
Consider the luxury of having that kind of power, all of the time, and KNOWING that it's going to last and last and last. To me that's REAL engineering. We're all aware that you can run boost until the motor blows and whatever that HP number was, well, it really "WAS" because, just like the Looney Tunes trick of swallowing gasoline + nitroglycerin, then jumping up and down right before lighting your cigar.... You can only do that trick once.
I'll try to leave the cement filled Supras for someone else.
Seriously though, unless this turns into "Drag Times" magazine, it'd be good to consider that at around 550WHP/600WTQ (Your basic 700 Kit) that you're running @ about 200hp per liter.
Figuring that you will likely not run it close to that output all of the time, you're likely to get 70,000 miles from that build (assuming a fresh motor + rods to begin with) because it's likely you're not running at 1.4BAR all of the time.
There are very good formulas for this which I am trying to dig up, just to see what, truly, you could get in terms of wear and tear on a 700hp daily driver. If it's reasonable to see 100K miles on a stock turbo, which we have all seen evidence of, then perhaps it would follow that the GT700 cars would be capable (with 60% more final output) of lasting for 70,000 miles.
Consider the luxury of having that kind of power, all of the time, and KNOWING that it's going to last and last and last. To me that's REAL engineering. We're all aware that you can run boost until the motor blows and whatever that HP number was, well, it really "WAS" because, just like the Looney Tunes trick of swallowing gasoline + nitroglycerin, then jumping up and down right before lighting your cigar.... You can only do that trick once.
I'll try to leave the cement filled Supras for someone else.
But I'd love to take an equally high hp, equally built 996 and Supra (600/700/800/900 your choice) and run them ***** to the wall and see which one fails first.
PS, and my name isn't Scott
#57
03-20-2008 | 12:27 AM
Both cars maxed out -not tuned down... both with similar weight and RWD on similar tires.
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03-20-2008 | 12:31 AM
