I have a 1400 hp Supra sitting in my garage, I understand the concept however what can his tune do at this point that my Protomotive tune can not do?

 

Stand alone will allow you or your local tuner to do real-time tuning of the parameters mentioned above. This is especially crucial at the dragstrip or road race course...That's why you always see stand alone get install in Cup/race cars...

 

one thing that we are definitely considering doing is gear dependent boost control. as you saw at the end of the video clip, when we launch the car from a dig, it ripped all four tires loose and the car actually drifted into the other lane. this would obviously not be ideal in a street race situation. i can't let all the secrets out of the bag, but we have some very exciting things we are utilizing on the standalone that can't be done on the stock ECU.

 

Vincent, this is incorrect I am afraid, all Cup cars and other Porsche race cars run on factory Motronic, the Motec is for datalogging only. The teams that run on standalone units are those who do not have access or cannot tune Motronic to suit their needs.
Nothing at all on the performance side, except maybe several maps for different conditions etc.. that are easily switchable. You get more flexibility in the options available, but for a street driven performance car, I am not sure there is much use for them?

 

...Perhaps nothing if your combination is performing to your satisfaction and it is meeting all of your goals and requirements.

If I am tuning with a stand alone and I attain 100 percent of the available power, and you're running a Protomotive-tuned DME and you attain 100 percent of the available power... we've done the same thing with a different method. However, I may have more flexibility in some areas of the tune to be more creative at how I put that power to use. In addition, I may be able to add a feature for my client's project that the stock DME cannot accomodate.

For me, this project wasn't about defeating the factory Motronic tuning. Let me publicly say that the Motronics are brilliant. I can't even imagine the enormous amount of time that has been devoted to the Bosch Motronic programming over the last decade. It's designed to achieve many things, but there are compromises being made regarding the protection of the manufacturer's interests, many of which we get around when we reprogram the DME's with Protomotive. Some we cannot. Some of these things matter on certain projects, some of them do not.

If your vehicle is doing everything you wish it to do then Protomotive has done their job well and you need not consider any other alternative.

This entire project was simply about doing things my way. I've enjoyed the challenge of making it work and trying to program from scratch many of the things that have taken the engineers at Bosch years to perfect... while at the same time enabling me to generate as much power as I like while applying that power as I see fit.

I hope this helps answer your question.

Okay... back to work!

 

Excellent honest answer Tym, speaks very highly of you.

 

tym's reason for even taking on this project was to meet his customer's goals. the features i wanted in my car would never have been attainable using the stock ECU. however, remapping the stock ECU may achieve other customer's goals. i just want some very unique features that are unattainable with the stock ECU. hopefully by the end of the month, we will have some very exciting information to share with the community!

 

Great answer! Thank you very much for a REAL answer.
Good luck
Robert

 

Best thread yet... Keep up the great work Tym and I look forward to hearing from you next week.


Suman

 

wow.. very impressive.. cant wait to hear more updates

 

I commend Tym for taking on this project as well... BIG TIME... in the end it probably will be a very viable set up... But isn't it Ironic how Protomotive has to numb the "Stock ECU" in order to take advantage of the other ecu? And with that said, I thought a stand alone is a direct replacement for a stock ecu.... if so why then are we dealing with 2 ecus? stock and after market?
I thought that is called something else....
let's see and wait what the developer tells us before jumping the gun.... maybe its not finished yet....

best,
markski

 

YA like a piggy back !

 

why are you always so negative in every thread concerning new development?

 

how is he negative ? hes just speaking the truth and obvioulsy he knows something you dont ? a true standalone i thought anyway didnt need the stock ECU for it to work....and its a direct replacement of the stock ECU....maybe theres something im missing here...

 

To the tune of Crosby Stills and Nashes' Ohio:

Porsche engine and Switzer's tunin'.
There's finally a standalone.
This summer I hear the revvin'.
Twin turbos in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it.
Supra's been gunning us down.
Should have been done long ago.
What if you gunned her and
Put more to the ground?
How can you run when you know?