Suspension - What Should I get???
#1
Suspension - What Should I get???
I am planning on a suspension upgrade this coming winter. I've learnt a lot from the various post here over the past year. It seemed PSS9's were the obvious answer and was all that was required for fabulous performance..... until Ken's outstanding write up / analysis of the PSS9's and thier shortcomings.
What I would like the suspension to do:
1. Lower from stock height. I currently have ROW's and would like to replicate that height or perhaps 1/4" lower.
2. Neutral balance: My car is 80%+ daily driver. I would like to eliminate the tendancy to understeer.
3. Comfort over bumps: This is not a big concern. I don't mind the ride as it currently is, but am not interested in a serious stiff setup.
Q. Are PSS9's adequate for my needs?
Q. Do I need a front stabalizer bar, or would rear only be cool?
Q. Would I be better off with Motons?
Q. Is there a broad spectrum of offerings from Moton?
Q. I don't hear a lot about strut braces being installed, why?
Any other relavent input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Mike
What I would like the suspension to do:
1. Lower from stock height. I currently have ROW's and would like to replicate that height or perhaps 1/4" lower.
2. Neutral balance: My car is 80%+ daily driver. I would like to eliminate the tendancy to understeer.
3. Comfort over bumps: This is not a big concern. I don't mind the ride as it currently is, but am not interested in a serious stiff setup.
Q. Are PSS9's adequate for my needs?
Q. Do I need a front stabalizer bar, or would rear only be cool?
Q. Would I be better off with Motons?
Q. Is there a broad spectrum of offerings from Moton?
Q. I don't hear a lot about strut braces being installed, why?
Any other relavent input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Mike
#2
Zippy:
1. Probably
2. You already have one. If you just get the rear adjustable, you should be able to dial out the understeer.
3. Much more money, generally run with stiffer springs. If you're serious about tracking ... Moton's. Otherwise, PSS9's.
4. Yes, but their club sport (fully 2-way adjustable) is their base entry (heard rumors of a more street version though).
5. The chassi is very stiff and few think they are necessary on 996's.
I can add more in a few days, I pick up my car with Moton's tomorrow.
1. Probably
2. You already have one. If you just get the rear adjustable, you should be able to dial out the understeer.
3. Much more money, generally run with stiffer springs. If you're serious about tracking ... Moton's. Otherwise, PSS9's.
4. Yes, but their club sport (fully 2-way adjustable) is their base entry (heard rumors of a more street version though).
5. The chassi is very stiff and few think they are necessary on 996's.
I can add more in a few days, I pick up my car with Moton's tomorrow.
#3
Thanks for the input Tim. Are "drop links" what need to be changed to make the rear sway bar adjustable? I'm serious about tracking, but won't be able to get there as much as I'm a new dad. I think I will wait longer before making any decisions and see what Moton have in the pipe.
Mike
Mike
#4
I think the PSS9's are a great street setup. If you are looking for serious track hardware, I think Moton is probably the way to go. PSS9's can be adjusted for ride stiffness and height. I drive my TT almost everyday and the ride is perfect for my needs.
Good luck.
T
Good luck.
T
#5
Have you considered the X73 factory setup? If you're not going to track your car then this is an alternative if you don't want to mess around with various settings. The Pss9 should be on the top of your list as well. I only rode in the RUF pss9 but I can tell you that it was even smoother then the ROW I have on my car. It does come with a rear sway bar. If you will track your car, then you can go either with the JIC's or alternativaly, the Motons if you want the ultimate.
#7
Mike,
While you can get adjustable drop-links, the adjustability you need to affect understeer/oversteer would be in the sway bars. They will have several holes drilled into the ends which are where you attach the drop-links. The hole you use determines bar stiffness. It is easy to understand how this works by this remembering this simple rule .... 'Hard in, soft out.'
Keep in mind that there are several ways to correct understeer, but those involving sway bars usually involve setting the front sway softer than the rear, which allows it to 'bite' and turn in better. Corner balance, tire sizes, compounds and pressures also affect this relationship.
I am running PSS9's and find them fine for the street as well as for occasional track use. Based on the feedback from the others on this board, next time around, I would likely go with another more race oriented shock like motons or JIC's as I like to track my car as much as I can and wouldn't mind an even stiffer set-up for the track. BTW, I am using a strut bar up front and like it very much.
Hope that helps.
While you can get adjustable drop-links, the adjustability you need to affect understeer/oversteer would be in the sway bars. They will have several holes drilled into the ends which are where you attach the drop-links. The hole you use determines bar stiffness. It is easy to understand how this works by this remembering this simple rule .... 'Hard in, soft out.'
Keep in mind that there are several ways to correct understeer, but those involving sway bars usually involve setting the front sway softer than the rear, which allows it to 'bite' and turn in better. Corner balance, tire sizes, compounds and pressures also affect this relationship.
I am running PSS9's and find them fine for the street as well as for occasional track use. Based on the feedback from the others on this board, next time around, I would likely go with another more race oriented shock like motons or JIC's as I like to track my car as much as I can and wouldn't mind an even stiffer set-up for the track. BTW, I am using a strut bar up front and like it very much.
Hope that helps.
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