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Old 04-20-2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
That video was a complete fraud. No way would a tuned K4 car get beat by a stock M5.
Stock vs. Stock

In the quarter mile the E55 is faster than the M5
Typically, yes.

From a rolling start, an M5 might be quicker due to better gearing
It will almost beat one from a roll due to not only having better gearing, but also more HP and a higher redline.

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An E55 is much quicker than an M5 mainly because you can tune an E55 a lot more. In the quarter mile or rolling starts the outcome is the same..
Not necessarily. Depends on the level of tune on the E55. A Chipped E55 can still lose to a stock M5 from a roll. But with enough mods, it will definitely beat a stock M5 (funny that it takes mods to do it, though). Add some proper mods to the M5 though, and again the story changes.
 
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Old 04-20-2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
I am a little surprised that people actually think a M5 is quicker than an E55. I have seen a stock E55 run the quarter in 11.77. I have yet to see a stock M5 breaks into the 11s. If I am wrong please point me in the right direction...

http://www.dragtimes.com/2005-Merced...eos-11697.html
I have to agree w/ u here as well eventhough i love M's & currently own them. Stock vs stock AMG wins 1/4mi straightline if same driver in both cars. Modded E55 on youtube are in 10's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsTZ...eature=related
But M5 takes over on twisties & that's why i choose modded 996TT for the perfect compromise betw. an AMG or M.
 
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Old 04-20-2008 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
Yes, I agree that the M5 traps higher and is quicker from a roll (stock for stock). However in the 1/4 mile the E55 is faster...
I thought that's only when the drag strip is super sticky (with chemical) and cool day. Otherwise, they both are pretty close. E55 is more torque down low so it better be faster from the stop. 5.5L supercharged for christ sake!
 
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in my experience.....stock to stock

E55 is quicker in the 1/4 mile compared to M5's

M5 is a faster car from roll-ons.....especially after 100 MPH without a doubt

996TT won't run away from M5's at speeds/rolls like the video Divex posted......if anything, it'll be fairly close. The 996TT in that video def got the jumps....and if anything, looks like the M5 driver could use a lesson or two about anticipation (he looks like he steps on the gas after the 996TT gets into boost).

in any case.....i've ran a few stock 996TT's from rolls and I've pulled them quite handily whereas M5's from a roll put up a much better run....especially as speeds climb above triple digits
 
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I didn't think much of AMG's until I drove a CL 65. All I can say is what a car. It may be a couple of ticks slower to 60, but after that watch out. Stock it has 612 HP and 738 lb-ft of torque at 1800 rpm!

Don't mess with me should be painted on the rear of that car.

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owned both 996tt and e55 - i think the 996tt was quicker then the e55 - but i would have been very surprised if i had gotten beaten by an M5 in the the e55 or the 996tt
 
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Originally Posted by ronny ghazal
I didn't think much of AMG's until I drove a CL 65. All I can say is what a car. It may be a couple of ticks slower to 60, but after that watch out. Stock it has 612 HP and 738 lb-ft of torque at 1800 rpm!

Don't mess with me should be painted on the rear of that car.

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Speaking of 65's...there's a vid floating around somewhere of a modified Protomotive 996TT against a S65 AMG from a roll.

Oh wait...here it is. http://media.putfile.com/996TT-vs-S65
 
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Originally Posted by EvilEmpirE
in my experience.....stock to stock

E55 is quicker in the 1/4 mile compared to M5's

M5 is a faster car from roll-ons.....especially after 100 MPH without a doubt

996TT won't run away from M5's at speeds/rolls like the video Divex posted......if anything, it'll be fairly close. The 996TT in that video def got the jumps....and if anything, looks like the M5 driver could use a lesson or two about anticipation (he looks like he steps on the gas after the 996TT gets into boost).

in any case.....i've ran a few stock 996TT's from rolls and I've pulled them quite handily whereas M5's from a roll put up a much better run....especially as speeds climb above triple digits
Agreed, I think Dive's dead on about everything except from what you and I have seen in our pulls, an M5 is quicker from a roll and past triple digits, than a stock 996TT.
 
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Old 04-21-2008 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DLSJ5
Agreed, I think Dive's dead on about everything except from what you and I have seen in our pulls, an M5 is quicker from a roll and past triple digits, than a stock 996TT.
Bad 996TT drivers. It takes skills to shift as consistently as SMG.
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Bad 996TT drivers. It takes skills to shift as consistently as SMG.
Careful Scott those guys are on this board!
 
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Old 04-21-2008 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DLSJ5
Careful Scott those guys are on this board!
Of course it was in jest...as seen by my smileys.

All joking aside, I will say that a 996TT driver that can keep his shifts in the .20 range and under will do much better against a E60 M5 from a roll than one that can not. Is that better?
 

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i to agree with everything that scott has said , exept that m5 from a roll up high is a tad quicker then a stock 996tt... i know this for a fact .
 
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E63 Amg

How do you all think an E63 AMG compares?
 
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the AMG55's appealed to me because of the low end torque delivery of the blown engine ... if I were given a chance between a AMG63 and a AMG55 ... I'll go with a 55 ... otherwise, I'll go BMW V10 ... just my $0.02 ...
 


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