Want to see some SERIOUS Brakes????
#16
Hello Jean, I have Brembo GT 6 pistons front with 380mm and 4 pistons on the back and they are awesome on my heavy 996TT. The only thing, they need 19'' wheels. In which case there is another "brembo" alternative, the GTR kit. Check out the link from AWE and look at their results, pretty impressive. Note that the rotor is the same than the GT kit. TC http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shar...es&IL=996ttgtr
#18
I have the Rotora 12-piston kit on my Z. It is a beautiful kit and I have run it at the track and on the Tail of the Dragon in the mountains of NC. It is a good kit with incredible stopping power. However I had major pad knock back on the Dragon as well as the track. They have recently released knock back springs and/or modified the rotor design as well as track pads for this kit. With those changes it has potential for track use. They have quite a bite but I still prefer my PCCBs.
#23
You are saying there is no advantage for the 6piston monoblock over the stock 4piston????
The rotors are all 2 piece so better venting. Larger diameter, and each rotor weighs 7lbs less per corner. Less rotational weight is much better. The 6piston MONOBLOCK is way more rigid then the 1 piece cast Porsche caliper. The 6 piston offers much greater clamping force and surface area. Even tested against the OEM 6piston GT3 brakes they still out brake that car....
The rotors are all 2 piece so better venting. Larger diameter, and each rotor weighs 7lbs less per corner. Less rotational weight is much better. The 6piston MONOBLOCK is way more rigid then the 1 piece cast Porsche caliper. The 6 piston offers much greater clamping force and surface area. Even tested against the OEM 6piston GT3 brakes they still out brake that car....
I am aware of all the technicalities and differences between rotors, calipers etc.. However, yes it seems that the 6 piston monoblock will not do much difference if any. The only serious upgrade are the cup brakes.
If there is an independent test of all these different setups in any magazines that prove this wrong I would be very happy to read it. A shorter braking distance conducted with one high speed run is a good indicator, however not seriously meaningful, what you need to know is how they withstand the heat and still perform time after time in a track environment for example. This is where I was told that the difference is not there and worth it.
Rotating mass of brake discs is also important, but overrated for 99% of us, a lighter tire would make much more difference.
But back to these 12 piston calipers, any independent data driven tests out there? It would be great if they deliver as they should, I will be the first in line to get a set once I see serious data. They look amazing. When I read "serious brakes" on the title I thought it was referring to their perofrmance, so data would be nice.
Guys, I agree, The GTR are a different story all together, but not street friendly unfortunately..
Last edited by Jean; 04-26-2008 at 09:29 AM.
#24
Just a heads up...the NEW 6-piston Monobloc actually requires less space within the wheel than the older 8-piston system did.
If there was an 18" wheel that for over the 15" 8-piston system, I'd be curious to know what model, size, and offset it was, because that wheel too would allow for the 15" 6-piston Monobloc.
While it is a "chore" to find an 18" wheel that fits over a 15" brake kit, there are some out there. The CCW C14 is a great example. I've also heard great things about the Champion wheels, but have yet to confirm it.
Any information you can share, I'll add to our database.
Find and confirm an 18" that fits over either of our 15" Monobloc (6 or 8-piston) Gran Turismo kits, and I'll send you a t-shirt and some other swag.
Gary C.
Brembo / Race Technologies
Ph: 888.Brembo.8 ext.118
gary@racetechnologies.com
#27
Yo guys,
Just a heads up...the NEW 6-piston Monobloc actually requires less space within the wheel than the older 8-piston system did.
If there was an 18" wheel that for over the 15" 8-piston system, I'd be curious to know what model, size, and offset it was, because that wheel too would allow for the 15" 6-piston Monobloc.
While it is a "chore" to find an 18" wheel that fits over a 15" brake kit, there are some out there. The CCW C14 is a great example. I've also heard great things about the Champion wheels, but have yet to confirm it.
Any information you can share, I'll add to our database.
Find and confirm an 18" that fits over either of our 15" Monobloc (6 or 8-piston) Gran Turismo kits, and I'll send you a t-shirt and some other swag.
Gary C.
Brembo / Race Technologies
Ph: 888.Brembo.8 ext.118
gary@racetechnologies.com
Just a heads up...the NEW 6-piston Monobloc actually requires less space within the wheel than the older 8-piston system did.
If there was an 18" wheel that for over the 15" 8-piston system, I'd be curious to know what model, size, and offset it was, because that wheel too would allow for the 15" 6-piston Monobloc.
While it is a "chore" to find an 18" wheel that fits over a 15" brake kit, there are some out there. The CCW C14 is a great example. I've also heard great things about the Champion wheels, but have yet to confirm it.
Any information you can share, I'll add to our database.
Find and confirm an 18" that fits over either of our 15" Monobloc (6 or 8-piston) Gran Turismo kits, and I'll send you a t-shirt and some other swag.
Gary C.
Brembo / Race Technologies
Ph: 888.Brembo.8 ext.118
gary@racetechnologies.com
I thought at first my brakes were GT but I was wrong- they are GTRs and they do fit 18s BBS Split rims.
#29
Also have the 380mm rotors with the factory "big reds" for 380's on my 993RSR and 993 GT2 and they are both close , but clear the 18" wheels.
It's more an issue with the inside of the wheel centre spokes clearing the outside face of the caliper than anywhere else.
#30
I really don't want to get into a pissing contest by making this statement, so I'm saying that upfront Dan...
You hammered the Stoptechs, but I know of a number of guys running them with GREAT success on the C6 Corvette Z06. Is it possible that some of the problems associated with what you're seeing aren't due to poor choice in rotor/pad combo? The guys I know running stoptechs are running the slotted two piece 15inchers and seeing very padfriendly wear at track events...
Mike
You hammered the Stoptechs, but I know of a number of guys running them with GREAT success on the C6 Corvette Z06. Is it possible that some of the problems associated with what you're seeing aren't due to poor choice in rotor/pad combo? The guys I know running stoptechs are running the slotted two piece 15inchers and seeing very padfriendly wear at track events...
Mike