Want to see some SERIOUS Brakes????
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Want to see some SERIOUS Brakes????
One of our customers from the UK recently hooked his Porsche 996TT up with this Front Rotora 12 Piston Brake Kit and Rear 4 Piston Brake Kit. The front kit features Rotora's 12 piston caliper with a 15 inch 2 piece rotor. The calipers are available in red or metallic blue, this customer chose the red to put behind his GT3 wheels. The red pops out on the black on black theme Car Tech has created. The rear kit is a 4 piston with a 15 inch 2 piece rotor as well. Both kits include lines, pads, calipers, and rotors complete.
Check out more pictures of Car Tech's Porsche 996TT with Rotora Brakes Here.
Check out more pictures of Car Tech's Porsche 996TT with Rotora Brakes Here.
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Is there any real life serious testing for these brakes against a 6 piston Brembo? It would be the only way to know how good they are, unless one just wants to have them for the looks.
I am about to upgrade my braking for something very serious, would be nice to know what these do factually.
Thanks
I am about to upgrade my braking for something very serious, would be nice to know what these do factually.
Thanks
#5
check out this article on Brembo we did - http://www.vividracing.com/forums/pr...e-install.html
Also the 12 piston has dual purpose, looks, and clamping. Like a digital camera, it is not how many pixels you have, but the quality that counts. You can have eleventy billion pistons, but the physics of clamping force and surface area is what matters. The plus is the 15 inch rotor. Alot of surface area. If the pistons are bore correctly, then as the rotor turns when it clamps down it will take over the neccessary forces to equally distribute that force on the rotor. Down side of a 12 piston is brake pad selection. On the Brembo 14" 6piston, i have never had an issue where I needed more brake. That being said the 15" setup would be even more aggressive. Alot of guys run a 14" because they want to use 18 inch wheels for better track tire selection. Then tire selection depends on suspension setup, etc. So alot of factors to take into hand.
Also the 12 piston has dual purpose, looks, and clamping. Like a digital camera, it is not how many pixels you have, but the quality that counts. You can have eleventy billion pistons, but the physics of clamping force and surface area is what matters. The plus is the 15 inch rotor. Alot of surface area. If the pistons are bore correctly, then as the rotor turns when it clamps down it will take over the neccessary forces to equally distribute that force on the rotor. Down side of a 12 piston is brake pad selection. On the Brembo 14" 6piston, i have never had an issue where I needed more brake. That being said the 15" setup would be even more aggressive. Alot of guys run a 14" because they want to use 18 inch wheels for better track tire selection. Then tire selection depends on suspension setup, etc. So alot of factors to take into hand.
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Jean! I have the Brembo 380mm GT 8 Piston setup- you can actually run 18s with these just about. The caliper uses 4 pads each instead of 2. let me know if I can help.
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Brembo is the cream of the crop, however I will disagree with your opinion in that alot of people simply do not know how to drive or setup their car properly. Alot has to do with pad choice, brake bleeding, etc. Rotora is widely used in alot of race group vehicles. If you were at SEMA you would have noticed their BMW M3 challenge car. The technology and testing Rotora puts into their system is pretty indepth. Not bad for a company that does not have the budget Italy does. You are comparing apples to apples, but Rotora also targets a different demographic and price point. Many people bark at paying $3300 for a Brembo kit, but what about a 6piston 14" kit with 2piece rotors, pads, lines like Markski has for only $2600. Most people wont even use the full potential of their stock brakes. To be honest, the 3 miles I drive to work each day really does not put the Brembo on my 996TT through the test. The couple of track days I have done in the past proved their worth. But then again, that is why I am putting Rotora on my A3 because of the look, cost, and it is daily driver.
Now having used all 3 major company brake kits on the street and track, I can tell you what does "suck" and that is StopTech. StopTech rotors all warp and fail. The caliper is nice, but that is about it.
Now having used all 3 major company brake kits on the street and track, I can tell you what does "suck" and that is StopTech. StopTech rotors all warp and fail. The caliper is nice, but that is about it.
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Dan
Thanks for the link, it is a very nice article but unfortunately it is not at all scientific or brings any tested data which is the only thing I would be looking for whenever I am investing behind something as critical as braking.
Miles, thanks! I have been informed by very serious sources that the 6 piston 355mm setup has not made any difference in performance, and these people know what they are talking about. The 8 piston 380mm is what they recommended without any doubt. In fact it is the setup that we used on the 997 Cup for the 24 hours race. The 380mm/8 piston will fit the BBS magnesium as well as the Cargraphic 18" wheels.
I have gorgeous AP racing on my 996 RSR but they need to be custom to fit a 993TT.
I was interested to see how serious this 12 piston setup is, but based on facts.
Thanks for the link, it is a very nice article but unfortunately it is not at all scientific or brings any tested data which is the only thing I would be looking for whenever I am investing behind something as critical as braking.
Miles, thanks! I have been informed by very serious sources that the 6 piston 355mm setup has not made any difference in performance, and these people know what they are talking about. The 8 piston 380mm is what they recommended without any doubt. In fact it is the setup that we used on the 997 Cup for the 24 hours race. The 380mm/8 piston will fit the BBS magnesium as well as the Cargraphic 18" wheels.
I have gorgeous AP racing on my 996 RSR but they need to be custom to fit a 993TT.
I was interested to see how serious this 12 piston setup is, but based on facts.
#13
You are saying there is no advantage for the 6piston monoblock over the stock 4piston????
The rotors are all 2 piece so better venting. Larger diameter, and each rotor weighs 7lbs less per corner. Less rotational weight is much better. The 6piston MONOBLOCK is way more rigid then the 1 piece cast Porsche caliper. The 6 piston offers much greater clamping force and surface area. Even tested against the OEM 6piston GT3 brakes they still out brake that car....
The rotors are all 2 piece so better venting. Larger diameter, and each rotor weighs 7lbs less per corner. Less rotational weight is much better. The 6piston MONOBLOCK is way more rigid then the 1 piece cast Porsche caliper. The 6 piston offers much greater clamping force and surface area. Even tested against the OEM 6piston GT3 brakes they still out brake that car....
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NP Jean.
Thanks Dan, didnt know they stopped doing it... any reason why?
Whilst on the subject doesnt anyone (brembo) do Carbon-Cermaic rotors and pads that will just fit/replace the steel rotor/pad setup?
Thanks Dan, didnt know they stopped doing it... any reason why?
Whilst on the subject doesnt anyone (brembo) do Carbon-Cermaic rotors and pads that will just fit/replace the steel rotor/pad setup?
Last edited by Miles965UK; 04-25-2008 at 04:03 PM.