That would work too.

 

ok well lets set this **** up then =)

 

Wish I lived close. I'd love to see what my little garage built monster could do

 

There is a lot more than only those 2 parameters to truly compare performance, which some tuners obviously overlook. Cost, reliability, product support, AND actual performance should all be considered in a comparison. Not just acceleration tests which 90% of the customers will never actually run nor care whether their car runs a 7.7 or a 7.9 "60-130" time. Allegiances aside, lets be real here.

 

I put my cards on the table already...

 

Good point Zach. The tests I mentioned/recomended however give most of the guys here real world numbers (which they can compare with other cars and kits to make their judgement/decisions) rather than some dyno numbers that really don't mean anything. Product reliablity is huge. That is why some tuners spend real time on tracks all over the world in many different climates testing their products instead of a dyno which you know can vary by some pretty big margins depending on where they are at, user, calibration, fans etc etc etc. It's a good tool for tuning but not really to measure hp.
A good trap speed never lies.

 

Lets face it, tuners here are not like RS Tuning and spend weeks at the Nurburgring testing and running 24 enduros. Lets not act like one does extensive track side research and the other doesn't. Obviously owners care about much more than quarter mile trap speeds.

 

I don't think many people that buy these kits overlook cost. I think that Evoms has a very good track record on reliability and their years of experience also cannot be overlooked. I disagree with you on weather customers care about acceleration. Well most people that buy a 650 kit usually do care about acceleration and how fast their car actually is rather than what a tuner claims on a dyno. My car is very fast, very linear in power which I like, with very little lag, and very reliable. I have put over 5000 miles without a hiccup and plan on putting many many more.

I think you are fooling yourself if you think people plop down serious cash for a 610 or 650 kit and don't use the power on a daily basis.

 

put down the crack pipe!!

 

toressmd ,what is you car suppose to put to the wheels on pump? or any gt660 kit.

 

Around 550whp on 91 octane.

 

You need to re read my post because you simply don't get it.

 

Sure guy. By any chance were you the red turbo at Firebird West 2 weekends ago?

 

That would be RWHP, and what dyno gave you those figures?

 

I do think that the priority of people buying these 650 or 660 kits are...
- Performance and reliability go hand to hand
- then cost
- then customer service
If you get a good performance kit, reliable, and with a good price, we'd all jump on it; and you don't care who's selling it. If the kits are reliable, who cares about the customer service (it just icing on the cake).

How often do you hear buyers brag about their customer service?... my customer service is better than yours... it just sounds funny. When you compare cars, you compare the speed and the look. If everything equals, then customer service is a selection criteria.