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Old 12-07-2008, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by robmd99

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Do you think you will make it down to the Supra Nats? I would like to compare our builds.
I dunno are you entering a timed event.Otherwise we could just e-mail pictures and dynos to each other.Seriously though I am not sure the car hasn't been in NY in over a year so I am looking forward to enjoying it.
 
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Originally Posted by joetwint
I dunno are you entering a timed event.Otherwise we could just e-mail pictures and dynos to each other.Seriously though I am not sure the car hasn't been in NY in over a year so I am looking forward to enjoying it.
I would like to compare how each car drives. The pros and cons of each build. You live in NY and I am in Texas so it is not like we will ever see each other except at events like these...
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here is one very close to 1000 rwhp @23psi... although its up on top I tend to say the car has mid 800 rwhp....

 
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Robmd, if you will be at the texas event I am planning on going next year. I would like to see your beast there.

Markski, good dyno sheets who do they belong too?
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951

Markski, good dyno sheets who do they belong too?
a member on 6speed. but there are better dyno numbers( seen it firsthand).
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
a member on 6speed. but there are better dyno numbers( seen it firsthand).
who you

are this motors using split case non-welded? pinned?


I was thinking of putting this supercharger on my motor, but I might have to remove my rear seats


 

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Originally Posted by Prche951
Robmd, if you will be at the texas event I am planning on going next year. I would like to see your beast there.

Markski, good dyno sheets who do they belong too?
I go every year! I love the events.... yes you are more than welcome to take a ride. My car is only a beast when it comes to the motor. It is very quite on the inside .... you will be suprised.
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Originally Posted by robmd99
I go every year! I love the events.... yes you are more than welcome to take a ride. My car is only a beast when it comes to the motor. It is very quite on the inside .... you will be suprised.
Robert

cool, I will definitely be there.
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Originally Posted by Prche951
WOW, 1600 fwhp. You increased the stroke to what and how much did the overall displacement go to now?
The final build used a 80.4 mm billet crank.



The crank was ground for 2.0" NASCAR oval bearings. Rather than take it off all the way around, it was offset an additional 2 mm. Final stroke is 80.6 mm. The reason for the oval bearings is they will allow a safe redline of 8900 rpm's. They are a proven stronger bearing. The crank was also knife edged, micro polished, cross drilled, relieved, balanced, frozen and nitrated. This will provide another .2L+

The stock piston bore is 100 mm. We are using 105.7. This will provide another approx. .6L.

We are not using a stock Porsche case. Our deck height is taller which required longer rods and shorter piston centerlines. Do not want to disclose total displacement at this time, however as a benchmark. The largest we have seen these motors taken to date is 4.4L's.

As for strength, our case was designed for 1500 hp. It was also shuffle pinned and bow tailed. The crank, rods and pistons are very light and the oil is handled with a three indexed oil pump. Our case is not welded, however all our studs are 12 mm with special designed trick threads and washers.

I have to respect what Joe was getting at. No more questions or comments until we have some valid numbers to put up.
 

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Originally Posted by cjv
The final build used a 80.4 mm billet crank.



The crank was ground for 2.0" NASCAR oval bearings. Rather than take it off all the way around, it was offset an additional 2 mm. Final stroke is 80.6 mm. The reason for the oval bearings is they will allow a safe redline of 8900 rpm's. They are a proven stronger bearing. The crank was also knife edged, micro polished, cross drilled, relieved, balanced, frozen and nitrated. This will provide another .2L+

The stock piston bore is 100 mm. We are using 105.7. This will provide another approx. .6L.

We are not using a stock Porsche case. Our deck height is taller which required longer rods and shorter piston centerlines. Do not want to disclose total displacement at this time, however as a benchmark. The largest we have seen these motors taken to date is 4.4L's.

As for strength, our case was designed for 1500 hp. It was also shuffle pinned and bow tailed. The crank, rods and pistons are very light and the oil is handled with a three indexed oil pump. Our case is not welded, however all our studs are 12 mm with special designed trick threads and washers.

I have to respect what Joe was getting at. No more questions or comments until we have some valid numbers to put up.
Some of the items you mentioned I have done to my motor. I quess I must be doing something right
Good luck and Happy Holidays
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Originally Posted by cjv
The final build used a 80.4 mm billet crank.



The crank was ground for 2.0" NASCAR oval bearings. Rather than take it off all the way around, it was offset an additional 2 mm. Final stroke is 80.6 mm. The reason for the oval bearings is they will allow a safe redline of 8900 rpm's. They are a proven stronger bearing. The crank was also knife edged, micro polished, cross drilled, relieved, balanced, frozen and nitrated. This will provide another .2L+

The stock piston bore is 100 mm. We are using 105.7. This will provide another approx. .6L.

We are not using a stock Porsche case. Our deck height is taller which required longer rods and shorter piston centerlines. Do not want to disclose total displacement at this time, however as a benchmark. The largest we have seen these motors taken to date is 4.4L's.

As for strength, our case was designed for 1500 hp. It was also shuffle pinned and bow tailed. The crank, rods and pistons are very light and the oil is handled with a three indexed oil pump. Our case is not welded, however all our studs are 12 mm with special designed trick threads and washers.

I have to respect what Joe was getting at. No more questions or comments until we have some valid numbers to put up.
Very very nice.You have certainly earned it!
 
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Originally Posted by robmd99
Some of the items you mentioned I have done to my motor. I quess I must be doing something right
Good luck and Happy Holidays
Robert
Robert,

The motor has not been tested in this final displacement. We can only hope it is right.

This project has always been in constant change, because the technology just kept changing and we just wanted the best there was available. Looking back after over four years we now realize it will never happen. These motors are kinda like computers. They are outdated the day they arrive. In our case ........ before they arrive.

Happy Holidays to you too.
 

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4.4L...very interesting. wonder what it's going to sound like with that much displacement
 
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This is amazing. I've heard of 4 liters but nothing like this! I'm looking forward to hearing more about this. Best of luck to you with your build.
 
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Originally Posted by cjv
Robert,

The motor has not been tested in this final displacement. We can only hope it is right.

This project has always been in constant change, because the technology just kept changing and we just wanted the best there was available. Looking back after over four years we now realize it will never happen. These motors are kinda like computers. They are outdated the day they arrive. In our case ........ before they arrive.

Happy Holidays to you too.
I agree with your analogy completely! I did the same thing a year ago, everything that I heard or read about I did to my motor but at this point I am just glad she is running! I hope the best for you!
Robert
 
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