when will we see 1000rwhp out of these hi HP porsches?
#46
05-02-2008, 09:49 AM
LOL
I know all about it... lets see what happens...
Im waiting for some clutch replacement parts next week... if it holds then Ill be happy , if not ill have to go another route... other then that the car has been ready just no where o go in the extended winter break we have had in Chicago..LOL
I know all about it... lets see what happens...
Im waiting for some clutch replacement parts next week... if it holds then Ill be happy , if not ill have to go another route... other then that the car has been ready just no where o go in the extended winter break we have had in Chicago..LOL
Congrats on the record run and it just looks SICK when you pulled the front wheels off the ground. Anyone beat your 9 second time yet and are you planning on going back to the strip?
#49
05-02-2008, 10:01 AM
Displacement
One of the reasons that you have not seen a 1000hp Porsche yet is because honestly most shops are to secretive. Do you know why the LS1/5.0/4.6/etc. have done so good is because people work together and are not a bunch of arrogant *******s. Maybe if people learned to work together we'd get **** done. Don't give me the excuses that its because of money, because honestly they could make more if they worked together. I know some may HELP each other some, but not enough. This doesn't relate to everyone because there are some people from certain shops that have helped me along the way, but for the most part the others try to be to secretive.
It's funny that some of the big names wouldn't even come congratulate people like me who have thought outside of the box and built cars that make just as much power as people who have spent $25k to do a build. I guess when I finally build my motor and max out the turbos I'll be laughing because I did this for still less than $20k and will be making some insane power.... Maybe the younger guys are the smarter ones because we can do more with less... LOL!
And for those dissing Aluminum blocks maybe you should look at the LS1 because it was aluminum with 4 bolts per cyl. they said it could never make a lot of power, but if I remember correctly they have made close to 2000hp without any problem. Hell they said the same thing about the 4.6ltr Cobra/GT motor... I guess the people that buy the expensive aluminum blocks are just dumb.. LOL!
It's funny that some of the big names wouldn't even come congratulate people like me who have thought outside of the box and built cars that make just as much power as people who have spent $25k to do a build. I guess when I finally build my motor and max out the turbos I'll be laughing because I did this for still less than $20k and will be making some insane power.... Maybe the younger guys are the smarter ones because we can do more with less... LOL!
And for those dissing Aluminum blocks maybe you should look at the LS1 because it was aluminum with 4 bolts per cyl. they said it could never make a lot of power, but if I remember correctly they have made close to 2000hp without any problem. Hell they said the same thing about the 4.6ltr Cobra/GT motor... I guess the people that buy the expensive aluminum blocks are just dumb.. LOL!
There's good data on all of this and good theoretical data on how much HP you can get per liter vs longevity. One thing is for certain, though, which messes with the best math guys on this board.... You guessed it.... "You can't fix stupid" so anything that can be mathematically bulletproofed can be blown up with stupid.
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05-02-2008, 10:03 AM
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#51
05-02-2008, 10:09 AM
It's not just the Aluminum vs Iron argument, it's the DISPLACEMENT that you're using in order to try and get big power. Yes, you can get 1000hp from 1.5 liters but look, the PSI required to do that (from 1.5 liters) required IRON.
There's good data on all of this and good theoretical data on how much HP you can get per liter vs longevity. One thing is for certain, though, which messes with the best math guys on this board.... You guessed it.... "You can't fix stupid" so anything that can be mathematically bulletproofed can be blown up with stupid.
There's good data on all of this and good theoretical data on how much HP you can get per liter vs longevity. One thing is for certain, though, which messes with the best math guys on this board.... You guessed it.... "You can't fix stupid" so anything that can be mathematically bulletproofed can be blown up with stupid.
I just think its funny that people doubt aluminum motors. This has been argued about on every car I have owned with one (Cobra / LS1). The only reason why I didn't use an aluminum block in my Camaro was cost at the time to build a bigger stroker motor. Hell people still talk **** about sleeved motors (esp with nitrous and forced induction) in the LS1s but we have a sleeved aluminum 427 in the garage that we hit with a 300 shot and it takes it like a champion.
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05-02-2008, 10:13 AM
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Peter A's car (Divexx's very good friend and neighbor) has a freshly built Proto
3.8 liter Proto Car (I do not know what 3.8 kit), with Mckenzie heads and the latest
GT35r's and it made insane horespower at 1.1 bar (they ran out of tuning time on Proto's dyno and drove thru the night to arrive at TX2K8). Remember this had zero miles on it when it left the floods of Arkansas for Houston. This may be temporarily perhaps the so called "Top Dog". This is an opinion only but this car has the "goods"
to outperform Markski, Divexx, and Rob MD (due to the fancy heads/valve train).
I know there are a few others but this set-up (which I rode in and drove briefly) is like
a fricken "Supra" above 4K...
Obviously, Switzer's standalone + a well heeled customer will produce (and already has)
some very interesting results
Cheers,
MK
3.8 liter Proto Car (I do not know what 3.8 kit), with Mckenzie heads and the latest
GT35r's and it made insane horespower at 1.1 bar (they ran out of tuning time on Proto's dyno and drove thru the night to arrive at TX2K8). Remember this had zero miles on it when it left the floods of Arkansas for Houston. This may be temporarily perhaps the so called "Top Dog". This is an opinion only but this car has the "goods"
to outperform Markski, Divexx, and Rob MD (due to the fancy heads/valve train).
I know there are a few others but this set-up (which I rode in and drove briefly) is like
a fricken "Supra" above 4K...
Obviously, Switzer's standalone + a well heeled customer will produce (and already has)
some very interesting results
Cheers,
MK
#54
05-02-2008, 10:18 AM
Marek
I am trying to find the limits to my car and its acceleration. At my current tune, I am not losing traction thus I will slowly increase my power to the point were I loose traction. I am not interestred in dyno numbers, I care about my car and the fun it delivers when I am playing around here on the streets of H town! I have some serious competition.. supras, twin turbo chevy and fords and those monster vipers.. hint hint Tim!!!!
I am trying to find the limits to my car and its acceleration. At my current tune, I am not losing traction thus I will slowly increase my power to the point were I loose traction. I am not interestred in dyno numbers, I care about my car and the fun it delivers when I am playing around here on the streets of H town! I have some serious competition.. supras, twin turbo chevy and fords and those monster vipers.. hint hint Tim!!!!
#58
05-02-2008, 10:28 AM
Peter A's car (Divexx's very good friend and neighbor) has a freshly built Proto
3.8 liter Proto Car (I do not know what 3.8 kit), with Mckenzie heads and the latest
GT35r's and it made insane horespower at 1.1 bar (they ran out of tuning time on Proto's dyno and drove thru the night to arrive at TX2K8). Remember this had zero miles on it when it left the floods of Arkansas for Houston. This may be temporarily perhaps the so called "Top Dog". This is an opinion only but this car has the "goods"
to outperform Markski, Divexx, and Rob MD (due to the fancy heads/valve train).
I know there are a few others but this set-up (which I rode in and drove briefly) is like
a fricken "Supra" above 4K...
Obviously, Switzer's standalone + a well heeled customer will produce (and already has)
some very interesting results
Cheers,
MK
3.8 liter Proto Car (I do not know what 3.8 kit), with Mckenzie heads and the latest
GT35r's and it made insane horespower at 1.1 bar (they ran out of tuning time on Proto's dyno and drove thru the night to arrive at TX2K8). Remember this had zero miles on it when it left the floods of Arkansas for Houston. This may be temporarily perhaps the so called "Top Dog". This is an opinion only but this car has the "goods"
to outperform Markski, Divexx, and Rob MD (due to the fancy heads/valve train).
I know there are a few others but this set-up (which I rode in and drove briefly) is like
a fricken "Supra" above 4K...
Obviously, Switzer's standalone + a well heeled customer will produce (and already has)
some very interesting results
Cheers,
MK
When complete, I'm confident it will make more power than my car and will be faster than my car as well.
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05-02-2008, 10:28 AM
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out of curiousity how much does it take to do a minor built 3.6L motor?
how about a built 3.8L?
has anyone considered sleeving the blocks to run more boost using maybe darton sleeves?
how about a built 3.8L?
has anyone considered sleeving the blocks to run more boost using maybe darton sleeves?