996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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X50/TurboS/GT2

Alright guys, i need to know whats the differance on all the 996 Turbo Models.

996TT = 420 hp, k16 garret turbos, 4wd

X50 = 450 hp, k24 turbos, gt2 intercoolers, 4wd
TurboS = 450 hp, k24 turbos, g2 intecoolers, PCCB as standard?, 4wd
GT2 mark1 = 462 hp, k24 turbos, gt2 intercoolers, PCCB,2wd
GT2 mark2 = 482 hp, k24 turbos, gt2 intercoolers, PCCB,2wd

So the only difference on X50 package and TurboS, is the brakes?
Do the TurboS models always come with PCCB ?
Is this all ?

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gt2 is lighter that a turbo S
 
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K16 and K24 turbos are made by KKK/Borg Werner, not Garrett.
 
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That looks like the basic differences. The turbo S always included PCCBs. Of course the X50 could be ordered with PCCBs.

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Old 06-15-2008, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ard
That looks like the basic differences. The turbo S always included PCCBs. Of course the X50 could be ordered with PCCBs.

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So if the X50 could be ordered with PCCB , wouldent it be called a TurboS then ?
Or was it called TurboS from 2004 and newer when it had PCCB ?

Yes i know the GT2 is lighter and have a better chassis.
But i need to know more info regarding X50 and TurboS, the differance.
Okey, the turbos are from KKK/Borg Werner, good to know.

If you have some more info to share, please do.

Thanks guys

// André
 
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:36 AM
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There is also a difference in transmissions on the GT2, if I have read correctly.

It is a subject of some debate if the X50 gets some of those transmission parts.

(This really should be a sticky, or part of a FAQ)
 
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All of the turbo S's had ceramic brakes as standard. Also they were generation 2 PCCB's, exactly the same as all of the 997's. Also they had the short shifter standard. I have also heard through renteam.org that several of the Turbo S's had a little more power than the X50 option. I know it is the same option, but in 2005 it seems as though a few made it out with 483hp. Also Turbo S was only in 2005. Maybe someone else can add to this.
 
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Porsche didn't have any turbo S models prior to 2005. Basically they included a lot of options (K24s, PCCbs, etc) and called the last 996 cars the Turbo S.

X50, Turbo S and GT2s have identical engines and turbos. The later GT2s were simply programmed for more boost. GT2 trasnmissions came with a pump and cooler, but are otherwise identical to the various turbo models even though the are missing the front drive components, they can be plugged in to a turbo and will work in AWD mode.

There are two gebnerations of PCCB. The first generation is generally deemed as less desirable or even undesirable by some.
 
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Additional QUESTION...

MkII GT2's from the 996 era, what years qualify it as MKII?
 
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IRCC , X50 has steel syncros in the slushbox for a durability upgrade.

I think the exhaust is different too?
 
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Originally Posted by TwiZteD
So if the X50 could be ordered with PCCB , wouldent it be called a TurboS then ?
Or was it called TurboS from 2004 and newer when it had PCCB ?

Yes i know the GT2 is lighter and have a better chassis.
But i need to know more info regarding X50 and TurboS, the differance.
Okey, the turbos are from KKK/Borg Werner, good to know.

If you have some more info to share, please do.

Thanks guys

// André
The GT2 is not very similar to the Turbo S except in the powerplant. It is lighter, different suspension and is RWD. It was limited in production and cost a lot more.

a 2004 ordered with all the options and PCCB would be a Turbo S. 2005 everything came std on the car with the 2nd gen PCCB's ( I don't know when they started making the second generation of brakes)

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Originally Posted by ari
Porsche didn't have any turbo S models prior to 2005...
Do not forget the very well sought after 993 turbo S (although original post was regarding 996s), with excellent models fetching $150-200k.
 

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Originally Posted by ronny ghazal
The GT2 is not very similar to the Turbo S except in the powerplant. It is lighter, different suspension and is RWD. It was limited in production and cost a lot more.
Yes, but the "S" is "S"exier, which makes up for all of that and is therefore more desirable in LA.


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Originally Posted by Supercollider
IRCC , X50 has steel syncros in the slushbox for a durability upgrade.

I think the exhaust is different too?
The rumor that the X50 tranny (manual) was different than non-x50 is a rumor. Same part.

Exhaust is the same to (x50 versus non)... many X50s added the twin tips to the exhaust (perhaps this is std on a turbo S?) but the basic exhaust is the same.

To the OP- An "turbo S" is a specific model in 2005. You could find the same combination of options in a 2004, but that would NOT make it a "Turbo S".

If you really need the S, you can buy the letters and put it on the rear....



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Alright, some great info here.

So when i buy a 996TT, i should have a X50 or a TurboS in order to get the k24 turbos.
Thanks alot guys

// André
 


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