SpeedTech Exhaust Review
#1
SpeedTech Exhaust Review
Ordered this exhaust after reading some good review on 6speed installed it this morning and here are my thoughts...
PURCHASE EXPERIENCE
-It took 5 days after payment for this exhaust to ship, which seems to be excessive these days and no notification till I asked for the tracking number.
INSTALLATION
-The exhaust requires you to remove the stock bolt (plug) for the test port on the cat. No big deal but at $1,900 it would have nice if it was already on the exhaust
-The exhaust requies to use your OEM exhaust strap, this was a pain in the ***, as I had to remove the stock heat shield which some of the bolts were rusted on in order to remove the muffler strap. Now I have to get the OEM strap to wrap over an exhaust can of a different profile.... I spend a little over an hour doing just this part of the install. It would have been easier to provide 2 new straps like fabspeed did.
-The exhaust tip, I believe this might have been an installer error on my part and I have email speedtech to see if I am doing something wrong. But so far the only way I can get the tip to stay on there tight is if I pull the tips "out".... it stick out a bit too far for my taste.
There is space to push it in so the tips are more flush with the bumper but the retaining band isn't wide enough or the secure point is too far back, now the tips would pivot at all angles with very little effort.... ie going over a bump.
POWER/EXHAUST NOTE
-The exhaust note is a bit on the quiet side, I have no idea why anyone would need the volume reducer. It doesn't drone which is the reason why I am selling the fabspeed Gen I so I guess you can't have it all...
-The power, now I am sure this exhaust makes more power than an OEM unit, but compared to a Gen I fabspeed you can immediately feel the difference. Even my wife noticed how the car isn't as fast as it use to be....
-I am now running .2 bars less than I did when using the fabspeed Gen I unit.
-I am hoping as the exhaust breaks in it would get louder maybe some of you can confirm.
CONCLUSION
This is the cheapest 996TT exhaust out there and comes w/ the X50 tips. It's the best bang for your buck. A bit more power, a bit more exhaust note, much better than stock. But for me, the search continues.
PURCHASE EXPERIENCE
-It took 5 days after payment for this exhaust to ship, which seems to be excessive these days and no notification till I asked for the tracking number.
INSTALLATION
-The exhaust requires you to remove the stock bolt (plug) for the test port on the cat. No big deal but at $1,900 it would have nice if it was already on the exhaust
-The exhaust requies to use your OEM exhaust strap, this was a pain in the ***, as I had to remove the stock heat shield which some of the bolts were rusted on in order to remove the muffler strap. Now I have to get the OEM strap to wrap over an exhaust can of a different profile.... I spend a little over an hour doing just this part of the install. It would have been easier to provide 2 new straps like fabspeed did.
-The exhaust tip, I believe this might have been an installer error on my part and I have email speedtech to see if I am doing something wrong. But so far the only way I can get the tip to stay on there tight is if I pull the tips "out".... it stick out a bit too far for my taste.
There is space to push it in so the tips are more flush with the bumper but the retaining band isn't wide enough or the secure point is too far back, now the tips would pivot at all angles with very little effort.... ie going over a bump.
POWER/EXHAUST NOTE
-The exhaust note is a bit on the quiet side, I have no idea why anyone would need the volume reducer. It doesn't drone which is the reason why I am selling the fabspeed Gen I so I guess you can't have it all...
-The power, now I am sure this exhaust makes more power than an OEM unit, but compared to a Gen I fabspeed you can immediately feel the difference. Even my wife noticed how the car isn't as fast as it use to be....
-I am now running .2 bars less than I did when using the fabspeed Gen I unit.
-I am hoping as the exhaust breaks in it would get louder maybe some of you can confirm.
CONCLUSION
This is the cheapest 996TT exhaust out there and comes w/ the X50 tips. It's the best bang for your buck. A bit more power, a bit more exhaust note, much better than stock. But for me, the search continues.
#2
That review was unreasonable. If you can feel a performance lag from a Speedtech exhaust in comparison to your Fabspeed Gen 1 setup, your smoking some good stuff. From the beginning of your thread it was clear you had nothing but negative comments about your new exhaust. I have had the setup on for 4 months and have ZERO complaints.
The installation with stock straps was a breeze. the tips do stick out a bit from I like the look. As far as power, you could have a variable of maybe 8 -10 hp somewhere but unless your racing all out on a closed track there is no way your going to notice the difference. At 150 mph, probably......
As far as sound, its great at 2000-3500, then wide open throttle. Otherwise it is fairly quiet.....
Good luck in your search....
The installation with stock straps was a breeze. the tips do stick out a bit from I like the look. As far as power, you could have a variable of maybe 8 -10 hp somewhere but unless your racing all out on a closed track there is no way your going to notice the difference. At 150 mph, probably......
As far as sound, its great at 2000-3500, then wide open throttle. Otherwise it is fairly quiet.....
Good luck in your search....
#3
What makes my reivew "unreasonable" and your post reasonable?
I post my experience without any surgarcoat, if that's too much for you please ignore the post.
Have you had a fabspeed Gen I exhaust to compare back to back with?
Have you owned any other exhaust to compare it with?
Did you install your own exhaust to know it was a "breeze"?
FOR THE MONEY you can't beat this exhaust system, but a few minor improvements would make it that much better.
Not trying to get into a pissing match, but just because you like something doesn't mean everyone else need to confirm to your opinion.
Cheers.
I post my experience without any surgarcoat, if that's too much for you please ignore the post.
Have you had a fabspeed Gen I exhaust to compare back to back with?
Have you owned any other exhaust to compare it with?
Did you install your own exhaust to know it was a "breeze"?
FOR THE MONEY you can't beat this exhaust system, but a few minor improvements would make it that much better.
Not trying to get into a pissing match, but just because you like something doesn't mean everyone else need to confirm to your opinion.
Cheers.
#4
What makes my reivew "unreasonable" and your post reasonable?
I post my experience without any surgarcoat, if that's too much for you please ignore the post.
Have you had a fabspeed Gen I exhaust to compare back to back with?
Have you owned any other exhaust to compare it with?
Did you install your own exhaust to know it was a "breeze"?
FOR THE MONEY you can't beat this exhaust system, but a few minor improvements would make it that much better.
Not trying to get into a pissing match, but just because you like something doesn't mean everyone else need to confirm to your opinion.
Cheers.
I post my experience without any surgarcoat, if that's too much for you please ignore the post.
Have you had a fabspeed Gen I exhaust to compare back to back with?
Have you owned any other exhaust to compare it with?
Did you install your own exhaust to know it was a "breeze"?
FOR THE MONEY you can't beat this exhaust system, but a few minor improvements would make it that much better.
Not trying to get into a pissing match, but just because you like something doesn't mean everyone else need to confirm to your opinion.
Cheers.
For the record, this is my 2nd 996. I have owned a Fabspeed Gen 1 and the installation of the exhaust was done by a hired mechanic however i was there to assist with the brackets that were a breeze.
The Fabspeed was a great exhaust as is RUF,GMG and the rest of the batch but to state your car isnt as quick becuase of a exhaust is not an accurate comment. Maybe it sounds slower but im sure a 60-120 run would show no change at all....Just my opinion as well
#5
this is your second 996 TT? or you had a non turbo 996 before? Let's compare apples to apples. "For the record" You have owned a fabspeed Gen 1 for the 996 turbo before?
You had your exhaust installed at a shop and you assisted? Did you assist in the short throw shifter that you couldn't install yourself too?
You can have your own option, but don't tell me what I state is accurate or not.
You had your exhaust installed at a shop and you assisted? Did you assist in the short throw shifter that you couldn't install yourself too?
You can have your own option, but don't tell me what I state is accurate or not.
#7
I am sorry who are you to tell me to "quit whining"? If you have a need to suck up to a vendor please do it elsewhere. I didn't know they were a part-time vendor that sold exhaust on the side when not they are not @ their "real job".
So what you are telling me since you had the fabspeed and did your own install? You didn't experience what I noted above?
I already noted that the fabspeed drones that's why I did the switch and I already noted that it's the best value exhaust out there.
I am happy that you like the unit but "quit whining" to others that didn't find it 100% there.
So what you are telling me since you had the fabspeed and did your own install? You didn't experience what I noted above?
I already noted that the fabspeed drones that's why I did the switch and I already noted that it's the best value exhaust out there.
I am happy that you like the unit but "quit whining" to others that didn't find it 100% there.
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#8
I've got the speedtech on my 996tt and unlike the "helper" providing chastisement in this thread, I installed the system myself instead of hiring someone else's husband to do my work.
At any rate, here's my take.
$60 noise reduction rings:
I payed $60 for the noise reduction rings. These rings are actually (2) slices of aluminum tubing at approximately 1/4" wide and appear to reduce the discharge diameter of the pipe by approximately 10mm. Note...it's morning and I'm typing these numbers by memory. I some whiner gets bent because my numbers are off by a mm or two...too bad.
Now back to the $60 for the noise reduction rings. First of all they are a PITA to put in do to the close tolerances. Secondly, once the exhaust system heats up the dissimilar metals appear to expand at a different rate and the $60 noise reduction rings come loose and spin in the tailpipe.
Sound:
There is plenty of drone below 2500 rpms, and the sound at WOT is, well, nothing like an exotic IMO...more like a V6 jeep with cherry bombs.
Sound above 2500 rpms starts to get quieter with the drone rapidly tapering off. I find 3+k to 4k appears to be the sweet spot where the car sounds great from the interior, and I assume from the exterior as well. I tested the sound with and without the noise reduction rings. There is a noticeable reduction in sound, but not really a significant reduction.
Tips:
The tips are a PITA to get on the first time. I had to be creative to get them on with the aluminum bushings that are required. And I actually had to remove some material in the pinch gap to allow the bolts to tighten down far enough. One of the pinch bolts on the tips stripped out and I had to dremel the welds and install a new nut\bolt.
Fit and finish:
Fit and finish is great, but the muffler strap can be a bit tricky for those unaccustomed to bending sheetmetal. The OEM strap is formed for the stock muffler and it has to be bent\shaped a bit to fit the oval shape of the speedtech. The speedtech does come with longer strap bolts that help pull things in nice and tight.
Power:
Who knows. I really don't feel any seat of the pants type of thing, but it does sound faster.
My only dissapointment is the $60 noise reduction rings that fall out, however, John assures me that a new design is in the works and should be ready in a week or so.
At any rate, here's my take.
$60 noise reduction rings:
I payed $60 for the noise reduction rings. These rings are actually (2) slices of aluminum tubing at approximately 1/4" wide and appear to reduce the discharge diameter of the pipe by approximately 10mm. Note...it's morning and I'm typing these numbers by memory. I some whiner gets bent because my numbers are off by a mm or two...too bad.
Now back to the $60 for the noise reduction rings. First of all they are a PITA to put in do to the close tolerances. Secondly, once the exhaust system heats up the dissimilar metals appear to expand at a different rate and the $60 noise reduction rings come loose and spin in the tailpipe.
Sound:
There is plenty of drone below 2500 rpms, and the sound at WOT is, well, nothing like an exotic IMO...more like a V6 jeep with cherry bombs.
Sound above 2500 rpms starts to get quieter with the drone rapidly tapering off. I find 3+k to 4k appears to be the sweet spot where the car sounds great from the interior, and I assume from the exterior as well. I tested the sound with and without the noise reduction rings. There is a noticeable reduction in sound, but not really a significant reduction.
Tips:
The tips are a PITA to get on the first time. I had to be creative to get them on with the aluminum bushings that are required. And I actually had to remove some material in the pinch gap to allow the bolts to tighten down far enough. One of the pinch bolts on the tips stripped out and I had to dremel the welds and install a new nut\bolt.
Fit and finish:
Fit and finish is great, but the muffler strap can be a bit tricky for those unaccustomed to bending sheetmetal. The OEM strap is formed for the stock muffler and it has to be bent\shaped a bit to fit the oval shape of the speedtech. The speedtech does come with longer strap bolts that help pull things in nice and tight.
Power:
Who knows. I really don't feel any seat of the pants type of thing, but it does sound faster.
My only dissapointment is the $60 noise reduction rings that fall out, however, John assures me that a new design is in the works and should be ready in a week or so.
Last edited by drh; 07-13-2008 at 08:39 AM.
#9
Your assessment is purely subjective.
IMO 2000 to about 2500 is full of drone. Or perhaps you would prefer a description more like "full of very low frequency sound that permeates the cabin and rattles the windows of the adjacent homes as you roll up the hill towards your home at 20mph"...
IMO 2000 to about 2500 is full of drone. Or perhaps you would prefer a description more like "full of very low frequency sound that permeates the cabin and rattles the windows of the adjacent homes as you roll up the hill towards your home at 20mph"...
#10
Well...i bought the speedtech a few months ago. I have had 3 exhausts total. First I had the PSI loud, then switched to a RUF 520 exhaust and now have the speedtech. Well, to keep this short...install apparently was a breeze per my mechanic. Fit and finish are top notch...much better than the other two. Best of all is sound and power. It clearly has more power than my RUF, and maybe a tad less than the PSI loud. Overall, I am very happy with the purchase of this system. My brother who has an x50 is also getting this exhaust when he starts modding. OH...and the sound at 2-3k is just normal almost stockish...at 3k the exhaust is basically mute (I have even turned the car off cruising at 3k and you can barely tell a difference). WOT is just insane....i dont know what other people are talking about but to me and others the sound at WOT is comparable to exotic.....just my .02 cents
#12
I bought the speedtech exhaust and I thought it was pretty easy to install..... I think the fit the finish is very good... the exhaust tips.. yes they can be a little tricky to get them in the exact position.. you have to make sure the inner metal band is in the right location.. no big problem... sound is good.. priced right.. I dont see any problems. I like the sound better WITHOUT the quiet rings installed.
#15
It really is hard to go wrong. John is great to work with and the product construction is top notch...you won't be sorry. (this coming from an old metal fab guy with an attention to detail)
My deal is that being a first time customer, I never knew what to expect with an aftermarket system. The comments posted previously are simply my personal observations and not meant to disparage the product by any means.
My deal is that being a first time customer, I never knew what to expect with an aftermarket system. The comments posted previously are simply my personal observations and not meant to disparage the product by any means.