Correct me if im wrong...
#1
Correct me if im wrong...
Ok I just ordered these DV's for my 996 Turbo..
http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shar...IL=BaileyValve
In this link it says..
What is a diverter valve? A diverter valve (DV) is a pathway for boost when it is not being used by your engine. Whenever the throttle body is closed, like during shifts or decelleration, the boost needs an escape route. If the boost cannot escape during these times, it can back up and cause shocks to the turbos. These shocks will stall the turbos, slowing boost production upon re-acceleration (turbo lag). Even worse, these shocks can cause damage to the turbos. The diverter valves' job is to open when the throttle body is closing or closed, and reroute the boost to the low pressure intake side of the turbos, where it can do no harm.
Now am I crazy or is a DV another type of Blow off Valve?
Could you use a BOV instead of a DV?
Or is the DV different?
Sorry for the noob questions..
http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shar...IL=BaileyValve
In this link it says..
What is a diverter valve? A diverter valve (DV) is a pathway for boost when it is not being used by your engine. Whenever the throttle body is closed, like during shifts or decelleration, the boost needs an escape route. If the boost cannot escape during these times, it can back up and cause shocks to the turbos. These shocks will stall the turbos, slowing boost production upon re-acceleration (turbo lag). Even worse, these shocks can cause damage to the turbos. The diverter valves' job is to open when the throttle body is closing or closed, and reroute the boost to the low pressure intake side of the turbos, where it can do no harm.
Now am I crazy or is a DV another type of Blow off Valve?
Could you use a BOV instead of a DV?
Or is the DV different?
Sorry for the noob questions..
#2
What is a diverter valve? A diverter valve (DV) is a pathway for boost when it is not being used by your engine. Whenever the throttle body is closed, like during shifts or decelleration, the boost needs an escape route. If the boost cannot escape during these times, it can back up and cause shocks to the turbos. These shocks will stall the turbos, slowing boost production upon re-acceleration (turbo lag). Even worse, these shocks can cause damage to the turbos. The diverter valves' job is to open when the throttle body is closing or closed, and reroute the boost to the low pressure intake side of the turbos, where it can do no harm.
The problem with using a BOV instead of a DV is that the diverted air has arleady been metered by the MAF. The ECU expects that volume of air to be in the intake tract and will act accordingly, adding the appropriate amount of fuel. If that air isn't there (say, for example, because a BOV has shot it out into your engine bay), it will add too much fuel for too little air and you'll get a rich condition. After awhile, this can lead to idle problems, etc. as the car attempts to adapt to this situation.
Stick with DVs, the PSSHH sound isn't worth it.
#3
I think what BavBoy meant was: is a diverter valve the same as a recirculating valve?
A BOV is the same as a recirculating/diverter valve except it vents to the atmosphere rather than back into the intake manifold. Why the p-crew doesnt like BOVs is terra incognita to me.
A BOV is the same as a recirculating/diverter valve except it vents to the atmosphere rather than back into the intake manifold. Why the p-crew doesnt like BOVs is terra incognita to me.
#4
The bold part is the difference between a BOV and DV. The BOV vents to the air, the DV puts it back into the intake tract (pre-turbo compressor).
The problem with using a BOV instead of a DV is that the diverted air has arleady been metered by the MAF. The ECU expects that volume of air to be in the intake tract and will act accordingly, adding the appropriate amount of fuel. If that air isn't there (say, for example, because a BOV has shot it out into your engine bay), it will add too much fuel for too little air and you'll get a rich condition. After awhile, this can lead to idle problems, etc. as the car attempts to adapt to this situation.
Stick with DVs, the PSSHH sound isn't worth it.
The problem with using a BOV instead of a DV is that the diverted air has arleady been metered by the MAF. The ECU expects that volume of air to be in the intake tract and will act accordingly, adding the appropriate amount of fuel. If that air isn't there (say, for example, because a BOV has shot it out into your engine bay), it will add too much fuel for too little air and you'll get a rich condition. After awhile, this can lead to idle problems, etc. as the car attempts to adapt to this situation.
Stick with DVs, the PSSHH sound isn't worth it.
#6
Yes almost every [respectable] car on the road has a MAF... performance cars for sure.
"An air flow meter, also know as air consumption meter, is a device that measures how much air is flowing through a tube. It does not measure the volume of the air passing through the tube, it measures the amount of mass flowing through the device in a defined time segment. Thus air flow meters are simply an application of mass flow meters for a special medium."
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_air_flow_sensor
"An air flow meter, also know as air consumption meter, is a device that measures how much air is flowing through a tube. It does not measure the volume of the air passing through the tube, it measures the amount of mass flowing through the device in a defined time segment. Thus air flow meters are simply an application of mass flow meters for a special medium."
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_air_flow_sensor
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#9
Are we positive about this..? All turbo cars have MAF, and ECU to read everything.. I have seen almost every turbo car use a BOV. I am yet to see a Porsche with one. What makes the 996 different?
#11
i believe MAF sensor engines shouldnt run vented BOV because of the reason stated in Post #2, Map sensored vehicles can run vented BOV becuase the vented air isnt accounted for until it reaches the intake manifold.
hope that helps a bit
#12
not all turbo cars use MAF, 1jzgte twin turbo supra (JZA70/Soarer jzz30) motors use a MAP sensor.
i believe MAF sensor engines shouldnt run vented BOV because of the reason stated in Post #2, Map sensored vehicles can run vented BOV becuase the vented air isnt accounted for until it reaches the intake manifold.
hope that helps a bit
i believe MAF sensor engines shouldnt run vented BOV because of the reason stated in Post #2, Map sensored vehicles can run vented BOV becuase the vented air isnt accounted for until it reaches the intake manifold.
hope that helps a bit