Agreed, as well as our Moton setups, makes the car mind blowing!! it can be done, and when it is done, the driving experience and confidence to GO FAST in it is just x10!

Stop being so damn humble Matt, you are FAST hahahah, I have yet to see anyone who can drive the GT2 like you do, unreal, again I can only wish to be in that realm :/

Mike, I took matt's advice on a few things and it was a world of a difference, even with the Motons I noticed it!

 

The GT2 is very alignment sensitive. The set-up involved making proper toe and camber changes through it's adjustable suspension, not so much geometry change. All 996 GT2's have the same "geometry," which was based off the 996 GT3 Mk.1 (and Mk.2 for that matter).

The first real geometry change came about with the 996 GT3-RS street car, to homologate the changes for the 996 GT3-RSR race car. These changes then trickled to the 997 GT3 Cup car, followed by the 997 GT3 street car....

 

I stand corrected Guess it was the allignment that I was thinking of. But I do remember, Excellence said it made such a big difference in the car that it was day and night. Went from being a disappointment to being everything they thought it would be and more.

 

The problem is that under extreme load, at the GT2's lowered ride height, the car is prone to unpredictable dynamic camber change. This is why the factory "corrected" the geometry, by changing the suspension's pickup points, and the car became much easier to drive closer to the limit. Cary Eisenlohr could literally write a book on this subject. If this stuff interests you (I like this kind of stuff myself) read KPV's long thread on what he learned on his 996 Turbo when he tried to run GT2 ride height with PSS-9's.

 

-The ERP Racing (Cary Eisenlohr)components w/ Porsche cup suspension and JRZ(matched w/ significantly increased spring rates)fully adjustable shocks including cup wheel carriers and bearings, solid suspension mounts, custom A- arms installed on my 2 made a major difference in reducing floatiness and bumpsteer. Surprisingly, ride quality is still very good. I definitely concur with the above comments.

 

I would set it up with some Motons so she can drive it on the street and track. My motons corrected the float feeling in my GT3. GMG did a great job of recommending things that fixed the car.

 

I had my stock GT2 set up to factory specs and it was horrible.

I had an experienced racing shop that specializes in suspension set it up and it is perfect. No need for aftermarket IMO.

 

Most of the parts I recommended are either Porsche factory or Porsche Motorsport, not aftermarket.

Your car seems more set up for straight line driving. If you tracked your car a lot and/or drove a 911 with proper suspension geometry, you would see that a simply alignment set up is hardly enough. Been there, done that.

 

Are you using 996 or 997 cup carriers?

BIG difference between the two!

 

True, my car has only been on the road course twice, but according to Sam Shalala (he held the track record at Texas World Speedway for a Porsche powered car, and professionally has over 100 podium finishes to his credit as a driver. He has finished second in IMSA's 24 Hours of Daytona, fourth at the 12 Hours of Sebring and numerous top five finishes) it is hard to improve on the stock GT2 suspension.

He set my current suspension up.

 

Porsche must not agree, because the new GT2 suspension is way different than the 996, and it is like night and day. The roll centers and pivot points have been changed, and now according to Cary Eisenlohr, the suspensions have gotten to the point where the roll centers can be modified based on the power of the car as well. Also, many of the teams running in Speed GT and others which allow extensive suspension mods are all upgrading to newer uprights, control arms, subframes, etc. from either the 997 Cup or RSR.

Look at the level of improvement from the GT3-R to RS to RSR to the current GT3-RSR. The inherent geometry in our 996 GT2's is outdated and flawed. Cary was one of the first people to understand and advocate this. Porsche Motorsport finally figured this out and implemented changes a couple of years later.

I don't know if you've driven a 997 RS or GT2, but you should. The difference will make you rethink your GT2's geometry. You can push the car with a lot more confidence...

 

Probably correct...but alas my car budget, especially w/ the new GT30's I am installing is tapped out. I will never own a 997Gt2.

In fact I am probably not going to run my GT2 on the road course anymore, just the M3. The way the financial world is today, and my finances in particular, I am too poor to be a GT2 track junkie.

I am going to do some 60-130 runs however and get something sub 6 seconds. Doing so is much easier on the car than the road course. I swear everytime I am on the track I get at least a 1K bill, and that is without hitting anything, lol.

 

Couldn't agree more! The stock bilstein coilovers in the 996GT2 are pretty terrible, as I said 50x over the confidence and levels you can exploit with your car after some nice Motons and components are just in another realm! The car has more then enough power in stock form, it's the suspension that really needs to be focused on!

 

You are my Hero! You my friend have struck diamonds not gold... Best of luck -

On a side note you should just buy her my car. It is a steal of a price and she will be able to use it to its fullest potential - Maybe even break some records!

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lol GL,

Pwn

 

Even with all of my suspension work though, when gas gets low the front end gets very light as mentioned, especially on the track!!! At a little above 1/4 on up though it's perfect.