Stock market vs your car
#47
Hey Hal,
I trade too, though not your size Mostly futures. I heard about that fee. Hopefully won't pass! I swear, the dumbass ideas being floated in this market in the last 4 weeks just blow me away. Banning short selling on financials ??? What country are we in? That worked out real well....a week later we have a 8+% down day. Don't they realize that the shorties are buying on those terrible down days? Without them....we freefall. And now they want this tax. I thought market wanted greater liquidity? Can you imagine how much volume will decline if they enact that fee? Most of these politicians don't seem to realize that lower volume/liquidity = greater volatility.
Sheesh, what's next?
Good trading!
I trade too, though not your size Mostly futures. I heard about that fee. Hopefully won't pass! I swear, the dumbass ideas being floated in this market in the last 4 weeks just blow me away. Banning short selling on financials ??? What country are we in? That worked out real well....a week later we have a 8+% down day. Don't they realize that the shorties are buying on those terrible down days? Without them....we freefall. And now they want this tax. I thought market wanted greater liquidity? Can you imagine how much volume will decline if they enact that fee? Most of these politicians don't seem to realize that lower volume/liquidity = greater volatility.
Sheesh, what's next?
Good trading!
Andrew
#48
For the original poster, you should never have bought the car if you planned to "make money" off it...
For you other smart investor types... Keep posting. This is very good info to have... I've been dumping money into my company with the understanding that it will ultimately be my nestegg, but I also have some investments... Not a baller like some, but I've got a few bucks squirelled away.
Mike
For you other smart investor types... Keep posting. This is very good info to have... I've been dumping money into my company with the understanding that it will ultimately be my nestegg, but I also have some investments... Not a baller like some, but I've got a few bucks squirelled away.
Mike
#49
Mike, not sure what you did regarding VC money etc. However, if you have a significant position in your company and can find a company on the exchanges with similar characteristics to yours (assuming you are not listed already) then you might ask your adviser about single stock risk management. Basically, it allows you to keep your position with out selling it but if things go poorly for your industry you are somewhat protected as the other assets in the portfolio are overweighted to those investments that tend to go up when your industry goes down.
It seems that when many entrepreneurs here about this, they shrug it off because they are so convinced of their businesses impending success. In your case, I am sure it is true, but it is still something to consider and be aware that protection.insurance is out there.
Hope that's helpful
It seems that when many entrepreneurs here about this, they shrug it off because they are so convinced of their businesses impending success. In your case, I am sure it is true, but it is still something to consider and be aware that protection.insurance is out there.
Hope that's helpful
#51
Mike - I'm the original poster - I never planned to make money off the car, I'm not sure how you got that impression. I just used the car and it's expenses as a measuring stick for the market. In less volitile times, I'd look at the market and say to myself - I earned a set of tires today, or - I lost a techart bumper today - whatever. I started this thread on a day when I lost 40% of the entire car and thought I'd share that thought with the group. Now that I've lost damn near the cost of a new one, I'm changing my retirement plans.
#52
Trust me, you have company in that boat... We've all taken a bath in this, one way or another... I pulled $100K out of an IRA and stuck it aside just to make sure we had money to back our payroll incase our bank went ***** up...
Of course, that was probably a good thing, since the market has done the hokey pokey, and I'll be putting it back within the 60 day timeframe so we don't get penalized, but when it gets bad enough that you can't count on the banks, you know it's bad!
Mike
Of course, that was probably a good thing, since the market has done the hokey pokey, and I'll be putting it back within the 60 day timeframe so we don't get penalized, but when it gets bad enough that you can't count on the banks, you know it's bad!
Mike
#53
I don't regard my 911s as "toys". If you remember the Porsche buyer demographics, I fit into the brand loyalty category, and drive them as my only car. Just bought a used 997, AWE-tweaked turbo.
I grew up in Connecticut and Vermont, am a so-called "son-of-the mayflower". So since about 1620, we have been those hard-nosed Yankees that save and don't risk personal money - even though I have raised over $50M in investor money for companies that I have owned, I never use my personal money for stock market investment or any other personal money risk. Although I certainly am a risk-oriented person. I put money into to savings long ago, and paid off my mortgage. Rather boring and stupid...
Cheers- Gerry
07GT3RS and 07 AWE TT
I grew up in Connecticut and Vermont, am a so-called "son-of-the mayflower". So since about 1620, we have been those hard-nosed Yankees that save and don't risk personal money - even though I have raised over $50M in investor money for companies that I have owned, I never use my personal money for stock market investment or any other personal money risk. Although I certainly am a risk-oriented person. I put money into to savings long ago, and paid off my mortgage. Rather boring and stupid...
Cheers- Gerry
07GT3RS and 07 AWE TT
#54
Cheers, Oliver
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#58
Actually, it is a great time to be a landlord. It is almost impossible to get a loan nowadys so people are forced to rent.
My tenant (who is paying $100 under the rent I could get if she left) said the other day that she was "tired of paying rent and wanted to buy."
I offered to help her out by introducing her to my mortgage broker. After getting a reality check she isn't giving me any more problems and pays her rent by the 5th.
Mind you I don't abuse the situation (am currently dropping almost 2K to fix the air conditioning...I always give 100% to make her happy) but I don't worry about the property being vacant anymore.
My tenant (who is paying $100 under the rent I could get if she left) said the other day that she was "tired of paying rent and wanted to buy."
I offered to help her out by introducing her to my mortgage broker. After getting a reality check she isn't giving me any more problems and pays her rent by the 5th.
Mind you I don't abuse the situation (am currently dropping almost 2K to fix the air conditioning...I always give 100% to make her happy) but I don't worry about the property being vacant anymore.
I work as a Mortgage Loan Officer for Bank Of America and althou the guidelines were somewhat tightened I will not go as far as saying that it is impossible to get financed. The media is making it seem like unless you have vanilla 800 FICO credit, 30% down and six figure income you can forget about owning.
Truth of the matter is, that subprime is gone, No Income No Money No Job mortgages are gone and should've been never allowed in the first place. Stated Income W2 loans are gone.
Almost 50% of the business right now is FHA and just recently I financed a guy with 547 credit, so as you can see it is far from impossible.
We're pretty much back to 1999 as far as guidelines with FHA working on "expanding" their guidelines.
I wish the media would STFU and finally try to put a positive spin on things because now people don't even try tto come in to get approved assuming they will not qualify.
Brokers on the other hand have their hands tied as most big players/banks in the market stopped wholesaling their products and those who do put a lot of restrictions on.
#60
Any of you guys use point & figure charting, and bullish percentage indexes for timing entry and exit points?
Less than 4% of S&P500 stocks in bullish trading pattern. Bullish % index severely oversold. When it reverses up, it will be time to buy - huge. Traditionally, buying stocks when an upward reversal occurs from below 30% has been very profitable. Correspondingly, sell or start raising cash when a downward reversal occurs from above 70% bullish (overbought). With such an oversold current condition, the returns could be very nice. Now where do I get some cash!
Less than 4% of S&P500 stocks in bullish trading pattern. Bullish % index severely oversold. When it reverses up, it will be time to buy - huge. Traditionally, buying stocks when an upward reversal occurs from below 30% has been very profitable. Correspondingly, sell or start raising cash when a downward reversal occurs from above 70% bullish (overbought). With such an oversold current condition, the returns could be very nice. Now where do I get some cash!