It sounds like you should dyno your car and make a call to both tuners and see what they think. Every car is different. You will find happy guys with both. By calling you can see what it would cost and what they will project will happen to give you the best result. IMHO the best result is the most hp but smoothe/reliable power. ayou may send the dyno results in and find a problem or the tuners may both tell you it looks good.

 

Bay Area, CA.

 

You will have to make a nice video with that fabspeed on and post some videos.

 

Yes, please. I also want to know how good it is.

 

"Pretty popular tuner..." let me guess. I know a tuner does things that only make sense, would not do mods that put you in danger, know Pcar mods inside out, and not trying to squeeze every dime from you.

 

Sam, you know that's a bit of a stretch. I don't mean to be negative, but the GIAC files have sucked for years on the big power kits. Those with a good experience are the overwhelming minority.

 

Hey Baasha, no worries and just so you are understand me, the GT700 is a sold as a kit with a full exhaust system and by you changing to straight pipes (and thus lowering the back pressure so much) I think you'll be going "off the reservation" so to speak. If you stick with the exhaust you have now then by all means do the newer GT700 EVOMSit software. But since you're going to go down the straight pipe route my advice is still to have it custom tuned by EVOMS. That way you won't be relying on software that's tuned for an exhaust vs straight pipes just "adapting" and working perfectly. You don't want to risk when it comes to over-boosting/stalling at that level. As I was saying, I've been down this road both with my car (on GIAC then) and even though I don't know the ins and outs as much with that software I know that a gt700 won't run as well on straight pipes either. I know you have been talking about adding more power with various hardware for a few months and I think maybe getting all the pieces that you want together and in essence making your car much less a GT700 and more of a custom set up you'd really be best served by getting it custom-tuned.... I can't speak enough about the custom-tuning abilities from Todd/EVO. It's really changed a lot and for me personally on my car I was able to chop/change and spec things out a lot more and he could fine tune for my needs You won't be comparing apples to apples that way either. What you could do is run the EVOMSit on your car now with the _same_ hardware and make a decision that way. Even though the kit was already on the car when you bought it, Todd/EVO have already said they would upgrade it for free which is neat.
I guess I'll miss the sound of that sweet Europipe!

 

Hehe thanks MY996TT:P I think if someone says to me they like the way the car is etc... I'm hesitant to do anything else to it

 

I had my car custom tuned @ EVO with the new EVOMSit software early this year. I have the big throttle body and modified Y-Pipe along with a 92mm custom Europipe. The car runs so much better now. I started with GIAC software / GT28 turbos [GT640] back in 2003 and it was 5 years of problems. I can't comment on the GIAC/Hitachi MAF setup except for that it was too little too late for me. Good luck with whatever you choose.

Mike

 

Hey Mike, same here with my car except it was a GT800 with extra bits, bobs, more bits and pieces. When doing GT700+, 700++++, 800++ and the like it's good to know Todd/EVO can custom tune it on the dyno and street

 

LOL. Now, who could that be? hahaha.. Of course, it's the Shark.

 

Alex,

Got it! So, if I do decide to go the custom tuning route, can Todd do the tune even if I kept the pipes on or do I still need to get an "exhaust"? If he can do it with the muffler bypass pipes, then I would be really eager to do that.

Thanks.

Btw, we should do a video of both your & James' GT800!! Now, that would be SICK!

 

Oh for sure if you do the straight pipe route Todd can custom tune for that although I'd be careful about pushing things at the 700 level on a stock block. I'm sure he could do it for the bypass pipes... although see how you like that set up with the mufflers as well?

LOL instigator I just drove ours again today before the rain and good thing I got back before the downpour. The tires weren't liking the road for some reason

 

I was just trying to point out he currently has a giac tune. So between the two choices i could advise him to pick the evomsit. I agree, there are great tuners out there. But in his case i think he could benefit from the changes evoms has made since his prior flash.

It's like saying, HP takes over DELL. Would you upgrade to the HP software after or keep the Dell stuff.

 

Well Baasha as soon as you said nor-cal I would say call up Sharky and there you go. I think that the offer to go Todd/EVOMSit for free to support your EVO GT700 is pretty awesome. Also I agree with Alex that you are getting into the custom tune realm and you should benefit!

Zippy I can respect your situation and I'm glad that it has worked out. Those kits were twitchy pushing the limits of the injectors and t-body at that time. I am simply trying to show all sides. I have custom tuned my car with GIAC and opened up a nice power band. I also have strayed form the basic 700 package and seen the benefit of the MAF and good custom tuning (especially when you go a-la-cart). So my experience was good.

But again this is an EVO kit and they have shown some good updates/upgrades of late taking the "old" kit farther. The fact that they have gone internal for tuning and support the cars with their kits is very cool and stand-up. I just don't think that it means GIAC was necessarily bad. I'm looking forward getting the EVO inter-coolers and 3" exhaust to finish mine off.

Bottom line Baasha you have a well supported kit and a good dealer to go to. Hit the crack pipe!